Is Genghis Khan C2 or R1b ?

[ButlerKing]

I can't decide what haplogroup they belong to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan


C2 (formerly C3)

" Numerous studies by teams of biochemists, based on the Y-DNA of modern descendants of Genghis Khan, have indicated that Genghis Khan may have belonged to a subclade of Haplogroup C-M217 (C2) such as C-F4002 (C2b1a3).[6] "

" Zerjal et al. (2003)[7] identified a Y-chromosomal lineage present in about 8% of the men in a large region of Asia (about 0.5% of the world total). The paper suggests that the pattern of variation within the lineage is consistent with a hypothesis that it originated in Mongolia about 1000 years ago, and thus several generations prior to the birth of Genghis. Such a spread would be too rapid to have occurred by genetic drift, and must therefore be the result of selection. The authors propose that the lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan and his close male relatives, and that it has spread through social selection due to the power that Genghis Khan and his direct descendants held and a society which allowed one man to have many children through having multiple wives and widespread rape in conquered cities. All male line descendants of Genghis Khan were all allowed to have numerous wives.[8] |


R1b

" However, research published in 2016 suggested that Genghis possibly belonged to the haplogroup R-M343 (R1b).[9] The controversial result was based on analysis of five bodies, dating from about 1130 – 1250, which were found in graves in Tavan Tolgoi, Mongolia. The physical remains all of the 5 bodies belong to the Mongoloid physical type. The remains are believed to be possibly related with the members of the Mongol "Golden Family", at around the time of Genghis Khan, although it is unsure if the Y-DNA haplogroup marker belong to the Borijigin clan or the products of clan marriages between the female lineage of Genghis Khan’s Borjigin clan and with males of other clans/tribes from Mongolia or Central Asia origin. "

[ButlerKing]

My opinion: He is most likely C2 (C3) or else where the hell are all his male descendants today ?

Genghis Khan brothers, cousins uncles, grandsons, great-grandsons ect basically all the male-line relatives related to him had hundreds to thousands of wives each.


Btw R1b is found only 1% in India but it's in Punjabi 9% and Gujarati 12%. Mongolians only have 0% to 6% R1b but I think it depends on the study.

How can anyone else claim this video is true if he wasn't C2/C3???

[johen]

Btw R1b is found only 1% in India but it's in Punjabi 9% and Gujarati 12%. Mongolians only have 0% to 6% R1b but I think it depends on the study.

Altai Teleuts have lots of R1b. Maybe they are royals.

The gene pool structure of Teleuts was examined and Y-chromosomal haplogroups composition and frequencies were determined. In the gene pool of Teleuts, five haplogroups, C3xM77, N3a, R1b*, R1b3, and R1a1, were identified. Evaluation of the genetic differentiation of the samples examined using analysis of molecular variance (AMOVA) with two marker systems (frequencies of haplogroups and Y-chromosomal microsatellite haplotypes) showed that Bachat Teleuts were equally distant from Southern and Northern Altaians. In Siberian populations, the frequencies and molecular phylogeny of the YSTR haplotypes within Y-chromosomal haplogroup R1a1 were examined. It was demonstrated that Teleuts and Southern Altaians had very close and overlapping profiles of R1a1 haplotypes. Population cluster analysis of the R1a1 YSTR haplotypes showed that Teleuts and Southern Altaians were closer to one another than to all remaining Siberian ethnic groups. Phylogenetic analysis of N3a haplotypes suggested specificity of Teleut haplotypes and their closeness to those of Tomsk Tatars. Teleuts were characterized by extremely high frequency of haplogroup R1b*, distinguished for highly specific profile of YSTR haplotypes and high haplotype diversity. The results of the comparative analysis suggested that the gene pool of Bachat Teleuts was formed on the basis of at least two heterogeneous genetic components, probably associated with ancient Turkic and Samoyedic ethnic components.

If Genkiskan had the following american Indian bloodline, he might have R1b.

Results indicate the Xiongnu were composed of at least two biologically distinct groups. One sample from an elite cemetery in northern Mongolia (Borkhan Tolgoi) shares their ancestry with a Bronze Age population from Mongolia (Chandman), and possibly, to a later migration of Turks. The Xiongnu also evidence biological similarity with nomads who composed the Mongol Empire, modern-day Mongolians, and Siberian groups. These results are similar to ancient genetic studies while also achieving consensus with models of steppe polity formation proposed by archaeologists. The Xiongnu nomads are a significant part of Mongolia’s past with links to its modern peoples.

[ButlerKing]

Altai Teleuts have lots of R1b. Maybe they are royals.

They look super Mongoloid but their population is only 2,643. Mostly their R1b is the result of genetic drift.

[ButlerKing]

Genetic drifts really changed my way of looking at thing. Is really incredible how high R1b is in mongoloid and especially in the negroe African, it's no wonder some black nationalist believes R1b spread from Africa to Europe and Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b

C Africa Ouldeme 95.5%
C Africa Mada 82.4%
C Africa Mafa 87.5%
C Africa Guiziga 77.8%
C Africa Daba 42.1%
C Africa Guidar 66.7%
C Africa Massa 28.6%
C Africa Moundang 66.7%
C Africa Other 75.0%
C Africa North Nigeria 20%


( C Africa = Central Africa )


Surprise that such super Black looking people could have the world highest R1b.



95.5% R1b ( <----- the fact that they have only 0.5% negroid Y-DNA and still look super negroid, more ngroid looking than Obama and African Americans is proof Y-DNA markers means nothing to autosomal DNA. No surprise Teleuts have such extreme high R1b if even super negro looking guys have it the highest in the world.