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    not sure, it has been suggested by modern scholarly that they came from north, Pannonia i.e. Pannonii > Paeoni.

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    Everything north of Greece = Illyrians,
    North West of Illyrians were Celts (Gaul) or Land of Celts, but they got destroyed by
    Franks and headed back to balkans where they invaded Illyrians for which reason
    there are Illyrian tribes with Celtic influence (NW Bosnia, Slovenia and NW Croatia).

    Paeonians are mixture of Thracians and Illyrians. Triballians are on of the later junior Paeonian tribes
    who got Slavophone by mixing with R1a and we call them nowdays Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    We are Slavomacedonians but the country cannot be Slavomakedonia.
    Not because of me.
    Albanians and others will complain about it.
    Slavomacedonians would difine the difference to Greek- Macedonians ( I prefer the term macedonian Greeks).
    Rep. of Macedonia as the name of your country would be fine then.

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    I usually question the credibility of Wikipedia for such topics.

    However, with the given information I have concluded they were a separate people. A people swallowed by their neighbours in every way possible.
    The last conclusion given in the article that they could be Greek didn't make much sense to me.
    They first operated in small tribes, and their own culture and language was heavily influenced by the time the kingdom was formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimos View Post
    Slavomacedonians would difine the difference to Greek- Macedonians ( I prefer the term macedonian Greeks).
    Rep. of Macedonia as the name of your country would be fine then.
    I agree for Slavomacedonians but I am not sure that the Greeks are Macedonians in any respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    I agree for Slavomacedonians but I am not sure that the Greeks are Macedonians in any respect.
    Even Kanchov recognized the Greeks of Macedonia. Real Greeks, not Greek Orthodox Slavic speaking half-breeds. They live in Kastoria, Kozani, Grevena, Naoussa, Veria, Halkidiki, Serres, Saloniki, Drama, which really were the core areas of the ancient state. Are these people not Macedonians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Even Kanchov recognized the Greeks of Macedonia. Real Greeks, not Greek Orthodox Slavic speaking half-breeds. They live in Kastoria, Kozani, Grevena, Naoussa, Veria, Halkidiki, Serres, Saloniki, Drama, which really were the core areas of the ancient state. Are these people not Macedonians?
    They are not. A Macedonian means ethnic identity, their ethnic identity is Greek therefore they are not Macedonians. Likewise Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Vlahs...all of them including the Greeks do not identify themselves as Ethnic Macedonians. Not many Greeks in Northern Greece can boast themselves to be native in that area of Macedonia. Those who are I truly believe to be Macedonians even though they deny their Macedonian Ethnicity. Slavomacedonians are true Macedonians as much as the native Macedonian Greeks. The problem is that the Native Macedonian Greeks have Greek not Macedonian ethnic feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danaan View Post
    Τhe name Audoleon is Greek though. The name Ariston (his father) too.

    In the Trojan war they appear as allies of the Trojans but their Kings have Greek names too, although in epic poems the names could have been hellenized forms of their real names or made up. But that's not the case with Audoleon. There are coins.

    Thrace had been colonised by Greeks since Minoan times, 1000 years before any Illyrians. It was continually occupied by Greeks. That is why the place is literally filled with Greek inscriptions and articafts.

    Minoan presence in Bulgaria:

    German Scientists: Europe's Oldest Script Found in Bulgaria
    Lifestyle: 18 May 2005, Wednesday.

    Ancient tablets found in South Bulgaria are written in the oldest
    European script found ever, German scientists say.

    The tablets, unearthed near the Southern town of Kardzhali, are over
    35-centuries old, and bear the ancient script of the Cretan (Minoan)
    civilisation, according to scientists from the University of Heidelberg,
    who examined the foundings.


    This is the Cretan writing, also known as Linear A script, which dates
    back to XV-XIV century B.C.

    The discovery proves the theory of the Bulgarian archaeologists that the
    script on the foundings is one of the oldest known to humankind, the
    archaeologist Nikolay Ovcharov announced Wednesday.

    Ovcharov, who is heading the archaeological expedition in the ancient
    Perperikon complex near Kardzhali, called the discovery "revolutionary".
    It throws a completely different light on Bulgaria's history, he said in
    an interview for the National Television.

    Ovcharov has proposed 45 culture monuments to receive a special state
    observation and financing from 2009.


    http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=47819
    http://novinite.com/view_news.php?id=43688

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    I agree for Slavomacedonians but I am not sure that the Greeks are Macedonians in any respect.
    You should vist a museum then

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaArgus1 View Post
    They are not.. Not many Greeks in Northern Greece can boast themselves to be native in that area of Macedonia. Those who are I truly believe to be Macedonians even though they deny their Macedonian Ethnicity. Slavomacedonians are true Macedonians as much as the native Macedonian Greeks. The problem is that the Native Macedonian Greeks have Greek not Macedonian ethnic feelings.
    1- oh yes we are, more than you in every aspect.
    2- I can, my family comes from Argos Orestiko
    3- Of course we have greek ethnic feelings and we are proud of our greek heritage. Some of us picked up the bulgarian language und got vulnerable to the communists´ propaganda.

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