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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    After listening to the song for three times I definitely understand any other Iberian language (besides Basque) better than Corsican.
    Corsican it's basically like Italian's older brother, it's more archaic, and has most of the vocabulary in common with Sardinian; because in origin Corsican belonged to the same linguistic Insular Romance group of Sardinian, until Corsica in IXth century fell under the influence of Pisa, and the language switched to an Italic model but retaining the Insular vocabulary, Sardinian instead continued to evolve alone for centuries

    nowadays Corsican is still very similar to some Italian dialect, but it's a shame that many Corsicans acquired an ugly French accent and their language sounds strange
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    Portuguese people arent white/homogeous group, next time post diversity of your people
    Wrong thread? Don't come here to pollute this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    Corsican it's basically like Italian's older brother, it's more archaic, and has most of the vocabulary in common with Sardinian; because in origin Corsican belonged to the same linguistic Insular Romance group of Sardinian, until Corsica in IXth century fell under the influence of Pisa, and the language switched to an Italic model but retaining the Insular vocabulary, Sardinian instead continued to evolve alone for centuries

    nowadays Corsican is still very similar to some Italian dialect, but it's a shame that many Corsicans acquired an ugly French accent and their language sounds strange
    Interesting. With that said and well explained, which Iberian language is easier for you to understand? Castellano, Portuguęs, Galego, Catalŕ or Valenciano?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    The origins of Euskera are surrounded by mystery. There are many controversial theories dividing the linguists.

    -Some of them believe it's a surviving Paleolithic language. However, recent DNA studies have clearly shown that ancient Basques are more related to modern Basques than to the original hunters-gatherers (Cro-Magnon) who settled in the area in the Paleolithic times. That's why other linguists think that Euskera originated in Near-East before or after the Neolithic Revolution. Many clues seem to confirm this hypothesis.

    -It's an agglutinative language, closer to ancient Egyptian, the Dravidian languages spoken in southern India, the Western African languages from Senegalese-Guinean subgroup, than to the Indo-European languages.

    -Some researchers have linked Basque to the Northeast Caucasian languages (Chechen, Lezgian), Northwest (Abkhaz, Circassian), and South Caucasian/Kartvelian languages (Georgian, Laz) because like Basque, these idoms are ergative-absolutive languages (explaining what ii is exactly would be dull and complicated, unless you're a linguist, what I'm not.)

    -Other scientists, basing their arguments on the similarites between some Berber languages (spoken in Morocco, Mauritania & the Canary Islands) and Basque, go so far as to say that the Basques are the descendants of Carthaginian deserter soldiers who left Hannibal's expedition. But this hypothesis is not credible, since there's no doubt that Euskaldunak inhabited the Basque Country before the 3rd Century B.C.
    Yet, some anthropologists have pointed out the fact that Basque skulls are mesocephalic like the Imazighen, whereas Celtic head shapes are usually dolichocephalic and Iberian are brachycephalic.

    However, despite all these controversies around the Basque language, what remains certain is that Basque greatly influenced the Castilian language.

    Originally, the sound /v/ didn't exist in Basque, and it progressively disappeared in Castilian too, eventually merging with /b/. That's the reason why Spaniards pronounce the letters "b" and "v" the same way.

    -Old Basque lacked /f/ but had an aspirated /h/ instead. Due to the influence of Euskera, /f/ was progressively changed into /h/ in Castillan. But the original aspirated /h/ evolved into a silent /h/. That's how "filo" became "hilo", fierro" = "hierro", "farina" = "harina", "fablar" ("falar" in Portuguese) became "hablar", "facer" (Portuguese = "fazer") -> "hacer"...
    The Aragonese name Fernando was traditionally Hernando in Castilian.
    Well I heard time ago that in fact basque language is the most iberian language, I mean that basque was the language of the ancient iberian tribes but only survived in the basque lands. It's a simple theory but it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autrigón View Post
    Well I heard time ago that in fact basque language is the most iberian language, I mean that basque was the language of the ancient iberian tribes but only survived in the basque lands. It's a simple theory but it makes sense.
    And seems to be very reasonable because Basques inhabited the whole Peninsula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Interesting. With that said and well explained, which Iberian language is easier for you to understand? Castellano, Portuguęs, Galego, Catalŕ or Valenciano?
    I think Castellano, it's the most similar to the Sardinian I speak (Logudorese,central-northern Sardinian), in Sardinian there are however many loanwords from Catalan, and many things identical also to Portuguese
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