GEDmatch kits of Bell Beaker dudes with R1b-DF27 & R1b-U152

[Grace O'Malley]

Interesting that those Central European Beakers were pretty much Eastern European genetically.

I0806 (Bell Beaker man with R1b-DF27 haplogroup from Germany, dated to years 2431-2150 BC) resembles modern Eastern Europeans and Scandinavians in terms of autosomal DNA. He is also close to Steppe_MLBA (Middle-Late Bronze Age Steppe, so Post-Yamnaya cultures such as Andronovo and Sintashta).

Some of these newer calcs are possibly a bit misleading. Like Albannach I also come out Ukrainian on the Ancient Eurasia K6 so it might be a good idea to try these Central European Beakers on the Eurogenes calculators.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.1
2 Natufian 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.8
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.72
5 East_Asian 0.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 2.25
2 Norwegian 3.08
3 Czech 3.59
4 Scottish 3.69
5 Hungarian 4.35
6 English 4.47
7 Europe_LNBA 5.28
8 Icelandic 5.36
9 Croatian 6.64
10 French 6.76
11 Estonian 7.36
12 Lithuanian 8.59
13 Steppe_MLBA 8.91
14 Russian 9.34
15 Romanian 10
16 Finnish 10.18
17 Bulgarian 11.47
18 Spanish 11.51
19 Basque 13.24
20 Albanian 16.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.2% Norwegian + 5.8% Sindhi @ 0.38
2 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Kalash @ 0.47
3 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Pathan @ 0.48
4 77.5% Steppe_MLBA + 22.5% Europe_EN @ 0.5
5 94.1% Norwegian + 5.9% Balochi @ 0.52
6 94.1% Norwegian + 5.9% Brahui @ 0.55
7 94.1% Norwegian + 5.9% GujaratiA @ 0.55
8 94.2% Norwegian + 5.8% Punjabi @ 0.55
9 94% Norwegian + 6% Kurd_SE @ 0.58
10 90.1% Icelandic + 9.9% Brahui @ 0.6
11 90.1% Icelandic + 9.9% Balochi @ 0.62
12 94.1% Norwegian + 5.9% Makrani @ 0.64
13 90% Icelandic + 10% Makrani @ 0.67
14 94.5% Norwegian + 5.5% GujaratiB @ 0.67
15 93.1% Norwegian + 6.9% Pashtun_Afghan @ 0.69
16 87.5% Europe_LNBA + 12.5% Iran_N_WC1 @ 0.73
17 67.5% Hungarian + 32.5% Steppe_MLBA @ 0.74
18 89.9% Icelandic + 10.1% Kurd_SE @ 0.76
19 88.6% Hungarian + 11.4% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 0.77
20 94.7% Norwegian + 5.3% GujaratiC @ 0.78

[Peterski]

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.13
2 Natufian 32.90
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.78
4 East_Asian 1.23

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.1
2 Natufian 33.58
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.8
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.72
5 East_Asian 0.8

You guys score less Natufian, more ANE, and more East Asian than I do:

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.79
2 Natufian 34.21
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.69
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1
5 East_Asian 0.31

How much of East Eurasian do you have in K3?:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...sia-K3-results

1) Here is my own result, Polish:

Population
E_Eurasian 2.83
SSA -
W_Eurasian 97.17

2) Here an ethnic Swedish guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 5.00
SSA 0.20
W_Eurasian 94.80

3) Here a North Dutch guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 2.21
SSA 0.20
W_Eurasian 97.59

4) Here a Scottish guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 3.98
SSA -
W_Eurasian 96.02

5) Here a Sicilian guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 2.01
SSA 3.95
W_Eurasian 94.04

6) Here a Czech guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 4.90
SSA -
W_Eurasian 95.10

Surprisingly, that Scottish guy is actually more East Eurasian (3,98%) than I am (2,83%).

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Definitions of components in Gedrosia K3:

1- E Eurasian - This component peaks in E & SE populations such as Ami, Nivkh, Dai, Han, and Ulchi, at about 100%, followed by Siberian & other Asian populations such as Nganasans, Tibetans, Subba, and Mongola.

2- W Eurasian - This component peaks in Neolithic European farmers such as Stuttgart, and LBK culture, as well as in most modern European populations at over 95%.

3- SSA (Sub-Saharan African) - This component peaks in Sub-Saharan African populations such as Yoruban, Esan, and Luhiya at over 97%.

[Hadouken]

"bell beaker dudes "

[Pahli]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 91.46
2 E_Eurasian 5.61
3 SSA 2.93

That East_Eurasian tho

[Peterski]

7) Here an Irish guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 3.72
SSA -
W_Eurasian 96.28

8) Another Scotsman:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 96.02
2 E_Eurasian 3.98

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 91.46
2 E_Eurasian 5.61
3 SSA 2.93

That East_Eurasian tho

Is your religion really Islam?

You got almost as much SSA as that guy from Sicily or some other Southern Europeans.

Do you get some southern admixtures in other calculators as well, or only in this one?

PS: 5-6 East Eurasian is not out of place for Latvia. Estonians probably get even more.

[Pahli]

7) Here an Irish guy:

Population
E_Eurasian 3.72
SSA -
W_Eurasian 96.28

8) Another Scotsman:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 96.02
2 E_Eurasian 3.98



Is your religion really Islam?

You got almost as much SSA as that guy from Sicily or some other Southern Europeans.

Do you get some southern admixtures in other calculators as well, or only in this one?

PS: 5-6 East Eurasian is not out of place for Latvia. Estonians probably get even more.

Muslims need an economy class ticket out of Europe instantly. Also I'm actually half Afghan, could that explain it?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 46.07
2 West-Asian 25.46
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 8.7
4 Indian 8.19
5 Indo-Iranian 4.85
6 Near_East 3.46
7 North-Amerind 3.27

[Peterski]

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Steppe_MLBA @ 1.310665

So Scottish = 50% French + 50% Sintashta.

Steppe_MLBA includes groups such as Sintashta, Andronovo, Potapovka and Srubnaya:

https://s32.postimg.org/qi9jt7u0z/wykres_PCA.png

[Percivalle]

RISE563 Bell Beaker, Osterhofen-Altenmarkt, Germany
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2a1a2b-U152
GEDmatch Kit Number: T644357

Litvin, has the subclade not yet been found, right?

[Peterski]

Litvin, has the subclade not yet been found, right?

Right. Just U152 is certain for this sample.

[Leto]

How much of East Eurasian do you have in K3?:

A Northern Russian (he is around 9% mong on K13)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 88.77
2 E_Eurasian 11.23