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    Default Immigration is not a right protected by the US Constitution

    The Left Is Self-Destructing
    By Paul Craig Roberts
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    February 1, 2017

    The mindlessness is unbearable. Amnesty International tells us that we must “fight the Muslim ban” because Trump’s bigotry is wrecking lives. Anthony Dimaggio at CounterPunch says Trump should be impeached because his Islamophobia is a threat to the Constitution. This is not to single out these two as the mindlessness is everywhere among those whose worldview is defined by Identity Politics.

    One might think that Amnesty International should be fighting against the Bush/Cheney/Obama regime wars that have produced the refugees by killing and displacing millions of Muslims. For example, the ongoing war that Obama inflicted on Yemen results in the death of one Yemeni child every 10 minutes, according to UNICEF. Where is Amnesty International?

    Clearly America’s wars on Muslims wreck far more lives than Trump’s ban on immigrants. Why the focus on an immigration ban and not on wars that produce refugees? Is it because Obama is responsible for war and Trump for the ban? Is the liberal/progressive/left projecting Obama’s monstrous crimes onto Trump? Is it that we must hate Trump and not Obama?

    Immigration is not a right protected by the US Constitution. Where was Dimaggio when in the name of “the war on terror” the Bush/Obama regime destroyed the civil liberties guaranteed by the US Constitution? If Dimaggio is an American citizen, he should try immigrating to the UK, Germany, or France and see how far he gets.

    The easiest and surest way for the Trump administration to stop the refugee problem, not only for the US but also for Europe and the West in general, is to stop the wars against Muslim countries that his predecessors started. The enormous sums of money squandered on gratuitous wars could instead be given to the countries that the US and NATO have destroyed. The simplest way to end the refugee problem is to stop producing refugees. This should be the focus of Trump, Amnesty, and Dimaggio.

    Is everyone too busy hating to do anything sensible?

    It is very disturbing that the liberal/progressive/left prefers to oppose Trump than to oppose war. Indeed, they want a war on Trump. How does this differ from the Bush/Obama war on Muslims?

    The liberal/progressive/left is demonstrating a mindless hatred of the American people and the President that the people chose. This mindless hatred can achieve nothing but the discrediting of an alternative voice and the opening of the future to the least attractive elements of the right-wing.

    The liberal/progressive/left will end up discrediting all critics, thereby empowering those to whom the liberal/progressive/left are most opposed.

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    Social justice warriors and their marginalised support base hit the streets, offended about everything that Trump and similar governments around the world are doing, protesting about the democratic election system (only because their team lost), hurling abuse, exaggerating, distorting the truth and just plain lying about what is happening.

    Meanwhile, productive members of society - the ones who pay for the excessive socialist wealth redistribution, subsidising the average SJW lifestyle, education and health care - have to go to work.

    Wake up, cunts. You and your Trump-hating buddies in the mainstream media lost the election. Why do you expect the same approach will work now? Isn't doing the same thing and expecting a different result a form of insanity?

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    You have to be stupid to select a guy who talks out of his ass as your president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Social justice warriors and their marginalised support base hit the streets, offended about everything that Trump and similar governments around the world are doing, protesting about the democratic election system (only because their team lost), hurling abuse, exaggerating, distorting the truth and just plain lying about what is happening.

    Meanwhile, productive members of society - the ones who pay for the excessive socialist wealth redistribution, subsidising the average SJW lifestyle, education and health care - have to go to work.

    Wake up, cunts. You and your Trump-hating buddies in the mainstream media lost the election. Why do you expect the same approach will work now? Isn't doing the same thing and expecting a different result a form of insanity?
    Democratic election system? Trump has lost popular vote, by greater margin than any other US president before him. Only the electoral college made him win.
    Every day, more and more anti-Trump protesters gather again, not only in the US, but in the entire world. The stock market is romping after Trump's unpopular policies. Apple, Facebook, Google's CEO publically express their disapproval of Trump's immigration ban. Poor rednecks like you (or better said: "poor bogans like you" since you're an Aussie. How many teeth are you missing?) are the only ones who are happy.

    Ironically, the US was meant to be a haven for all those who were escaping religious persecutions in Europe in the past centuries. Yezidis, a non-Muslim religious minority threatened by ISIS in Iraq, who were welcome to the US under Obama's administration, are now repressed in America too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    Democratic election system? Trump has lost popular vote, by greater margin than any other US president before him. Only the electoral college made him win.
    Every day, more and more anti-Trump protesters gather again, not only in the US, but in the entire world. The stock market is romping after Trump's unpopular policies. Apple, Facebook, Google's CEO publically express their disapproval of Trump's immigration ban. Poor rednecks like you (or better said: "poor bogans like you" since you're an Aussie. How many teeth are you missing?) are the only ones who are happy.

    Ironically, the US was meant to be a haven for all those who were escaping religious persecutions in Europe in the past centuries. Yezidis, a non-Muslim religious minority threatened by ISIS in Iraq, who were welcome to the US under Obama's administration, are now repressed in America too.
    LOL. US is a federation so electoral college is more important than the popular. Those companies are not happy because they will lost cheap labor and will have to pay Americans wanting higher salaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    LOL. US is a federation so electoral college is more important than the popular. Those companies are not happy because they will lost cheap labor and will have to pay Americans wanting higher salaries.
    Come on, the one who built his wealth on cheap workers and tax avoidance is Donald J. Trump himself.

    And you, the Turks, will certainly be among the next peoples banned from entering the US. I don't think Trump will restrain himself from banning more Muslim countries. He's here to stay 4 years, unless he's umpeached in the meantime, what is likely to happen. Trump thinks he's the new Reagan, in fact he's the new Nixon (but Nixon had competent collaborators like Kissinger to advice him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    Come on, the one who built his wealth on cheap workers and tax avoidance is Donald J. Trump himself.

    And you, the Turks, will certainly be among the next peoples banned from entering the US. I don't think Trump will restrain himself from banning more Muslim countries. He's here to stay 4 years, unless he's umpeached in the meantime, what is likely to happen. Trump thinks he's the new Reagan, in fact he's the new Nixon (but Nixon had competent collaborators like Kissinger to advice him).
    I don't care why would I go to US for slavery? He has right to ban anyone and I support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    I don't care why would I go to US for slavery? He has right to ban anyone and I support him.
    The ban is not only about immigration, all visitors hailing from the 7 banned Muslim countries can't enter the US, no matter their religion or the purpose of their journey. Nationality-based discrimination is contrary to Human rights.

    But I guess that a Turk like you ignores what "Human rights" mean. Your country would already be a EU-member otherwise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    The ban is not only about immigration, all visitors hailing from the 7 banned Muslim countries can't enter the US, no matter their religion or the purpose of their journey. Nationality-based discrimination is contrary to Human rights.

    But I guess that a Turk like you ignores what "Human rights" mean. Your country would already be a EU-member otherwise...
    Did France allow German visitors during WW1 and WW2?

    Oh wait....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    The ban is not only about immigration, all visitors hailing from the 7 banned Muslim countries can't enter the US, no matter their religion or the purpose of their journey. Nationality-based discrimination is contrary to Human rights.

    But I guess that a Turk like you ignores what "Human rights" mean. Your country would already be a EU-member otherwise...
    Why do you care about USA immigration and refugee matters? It is a 90 day security procedure.

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