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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fullte...9822(16)31542-1



    http://www.cell.com/cms/attachment/2082666...883532/mmc1.pdf

    First R1b:
    Latvia_HG2: Burial 93. Adult male. Buried in extended supine position with head facing southwest. Grave
    goods included 23 teeth pendants, one beaver bone and three bird bones. Ochre layer surrounded the skeleton.
    14C date: Hela-1212, 6840 ±55 BP (7,791-7,586 cal BP).
    Bird bones have been found in a number of
    Mesolithic and Neolithic burials in northern Europe,
    but they are seldom studied in a wider perspective
    (Gurina 1956; Jaanits 1957; Guminski
    2005; Mannermaa 2006; 2008). A famous and
    often cited archaeological find is the grave from
    the Late Mesolithic Vedbćk Břgebakken site in
    Denmark (Fig. 1) that contained the remains of
    a young woman and a newborn baby who was
    buried on a whooper swan wing (Albrethsen &
    Brinch Petersen 1976).
    Certain birds are perceived as helping or
    guardian spirits in Saami religion (Karsten 1955;
    Hultkrantz 1987; Schanche 2000). Animal bones
    in Saami graves and offering places may represent
    the dead animal’s spirit (Schanche 2000:
    299). Bones hold a metaphorical relation to
    power and the spirit of the animal
    . By putting
    the bones of a spirit animal in a grave, its power
    accompanied the dead person
    (Schanche 2000:
    296). Wing bones have perhaps symbolized
    complete wings or a living bird. This might indicate
    that animal body parts used in burial rituals
    referred to those elements that were important in
    the animal’s relation with humans (see Schanche
    2000: 295; Fowler 2004: 136–7).
    It is also possible that parts of important animals
    were fastened to the death costumes as decorations
    and symbols. The use of parts of totem
    animals or implements depicting them in dress
    decoration is a common practice among recent
    hunter-gatherer societies in Siberia. For example,
    a Yakut shaman (Altai) wore a costume which
    resembles a golden eagle, a leader (Lönnquist
    1986: 84; Siikala 2002: 44). The Nganasan shaman’s
    costume had motifs of the most powerful
    birds
    (Taksami 1998: 21).
    another R1b-p297 shaman in Bolshemys culture


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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    another R1b-p297 shaman in Bolshemys culture
    As usual,

    R1b = Elite graves
    R1a = Peasant graves


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    As usual,

    R1b = Elite graves
    R1a = Peasant graves


    So now Y matters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    So now Y matters...
    8000 years ago in the mesolithic, yes a bit more.

    Still not as much as you think since all these R1 predate your "muh IE" by thousands of years.


    Btw these HG samples aren't likely blue eyes, they have lower prediction values of blue eyes than the other mesolithic of the same period. Eye colour prediction at 0.7 or 0.5 is in best case scenario green eyes but most likely hazel for the 0.5, people who take this test nowadays with more than 0.9 are truely blue eyes usually. Besides, all dark hair but this is the usual thing. On the other hand they indeed might have developped fair skin earlier, around the same time than the farmers, also the usual pattern of the meso more related to EHG. Nothing really new here, except the Ukrainian that has nothing, and well.. more mesolithic R1b.

    The only sample that is convincingly light eyes/light hair is the middle neolithic Latvia MN1, about a thousand years later, which is still way before any steppe influences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    8000 years ago in the mesolithic, yes a bit more.
    Why 8001 doesn;t count?

    Still not as much as you think since all these R1 predate your "muh IE" by thousands of years.
    It is of course not true, but you are free to belive what you want to.

    Btw these HG samples aren't likely blue eyes, they have lower prediction values of blue eyes than the other mesolithic of the same period. Eye colour prediction at 0.7 or 0.5 is in best case scenario green eyes but most likely hazel for the 0.5, people who take this test nowadays with more than 0.9 are truely blue eyes usually. Besides, all dark hair but this is the usual thing. On the other hand they indeed might have developped fair skin earlier, around the same time than the farmers, also the usual pattern of the meso more related to EHG. Nothing really new here, except the Ukrainian that has nothing, and well.. more mesolithic R1b.
    They could be even negros - it doesn;t matter in this part.

    The only sample that is convincingly light eyes/light hair is the middle neolithic Latvia MN1, about a thousand years later, which is still way before any steppe influences.
    There was no thousands fictional years, but even if would be, it does
    not matter. Steppeites didn;t grew from earth accidently 3000 BC.
    They had to live somewhere 3001 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    So Proto-Turks originated in Mesolithic Latvia!
    The envied and maligned Basques(true royal celts=tudors/stuarts)are the origin of R1b.Any educated person should know this in 2017.Quit glory hunting and granting the glory to people who arent the origin of the true royal haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcelonaAtlantis View Post
    The envied and maligned Basques(true royal celts=tudors/stuarts)are the origin of R1b.Any educated person should know this in 2017.Quit glory hunting and granting the glory to people who arent the origin of the true royal haplogroup.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...hidden-history
    Shut the fuck up, Basques were most likely I2 prior to farmer migration from Anatolia, and that R1b came during the Bronze age migrations from the Steppes, it didn't originate anywhere near the Iberian peninsula

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcelonaAtlantis View Post
    The envied and maligned Basques(true royal celts=tudors/stuarts)are the origin of R1b.Any educated person should know this in 2017.
    Any educated person in 2017 knows, that Basques are I2, (at least NOT R1) and
    R1b people are foreigners. But any thinking person knew this allready in 2007.

    Quit glory hunting and granting the glory to people who arent the origin of the true royal haplogroup.
    I can assure you, that there was much more serves and slaves with that hg, than Kings

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