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    Research project shows people in Asia have inherited more of ancestors’ genetic heritage than Europeans
    Research shows that modern Koreans inherited traits of the ancient people from the Russian Far East in the north and from places like Vietnam and Taiwan in the south.

    “We’ve been working in cooperation with research teams from places like England, Russia and Germany to analyze a dielectric [genome] from a 7,700-year-old human bone found at Devil‘s Gate Cave north of the Tumen River in the Russian Far East. The results show hereditary traces from the ancestors of modern East Asians, including Koreans, have endured and been passed down for ages,” said the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology Genomics Institute on Feb. 1.

    Devil’s Gate Cave and ethnic groups living in its vicinity
    The research team’s thesis was published in the Feb. 2 issue of the online science journal Science Advances. In 1973, the bones from several bodies ascertained to be Neolithic-Age people were dug up at the Devil‘s Gate Cave, which was located in Goguryeo, Dongbuyeo and Okjeo (ancient Korean kingdoms). When the research team compared the people found at Devil’s Gate Cave with the genome variation of scores of existing ethnic groups in Asia, the results showed that the Devil’s Gate Cave people combined with genomes from isolated indigenous people in Vietnam and Taiwan were best expressed by the genetic variation represented in modern Koreans. This means that Koreans’ hereditary ancestors are closely related to both the ancient people of Vietnam and Taiwan in the south and the ancient people of the north.

    “While the hereditary traces of ancient hunter gatherers have nearly disappeared in modern western Eurasians due to migration, conquering and war of recent millennia, we’ve come to discover that modern East Asians have inherited the genetic heritage of their ancestors,” life science professor and UNIST Genomic Institute researcher Park Jong-hwa said.

    Like Koreans, the people found at the Devil’s Gate Cave had brown eyes and shovel-shaped incisors. They carried genetic traits typical of modern East Asians, such as the genes that make digesting milk difficult, that make one susceptible to high blood pressure and that cause a lack of strong body odor. This suggests that East Asians are genetically “one race”.

    “Thousands of years ago East Asian hunter gatherers expanded over all of Asia, as far as Russia in the north, and formed the northern race. And about ten thousand years ago the southern Han Chinese developed a full-scale agrarian society and rapidly expanded. However, in contrast to western Eurasians, the southern people did not supplant the northern people, but rather the two groups intermingled,” Park explained. “The southern people expanded much more than the northern people, so the hereditary traits of modern people show a much stronger influence from the southern people,” Park added.

    Koreans’ similarity with people found at Devil’s Gate Cave and Asian ethnic groups
    The modern Ulch people who live in the vicinity of the Devil’s Gate Cave are the most closely genetically related to the ancient people found there and are assumed to be their descendants, but among the modern world and besides these native people, Koreans carry the genome that is most closely related to the Devil’s Gate Cave people. “The type of mitochondria genome found in the Devil’s Gate Cave people is nearly the same as that found in Koreans. You could say the cave people are almost like the ancestors of Koreans,” said Jeon Seong-won, the researcher that led the project. Mitochondria genes can only be passed through the maternal bloodline from mother to child and are therefore useful for tracking ancestry.





    Source: http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/engli...al/781062.html

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    Never ever trust an archeaological/genetic project headed by an ethnic Korean. Especially not from that Leftist-nationalist rag the Hankyoreh IMHO. Just look at that pathetic infographic to make a complex topic into the most stupidly simple theme to understand. i.e. "Koreans are the granddaddies of all Asia, not Chinese". It is a revision of old Japanese propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Never ever trust an archeaological/genetic project headed by an ethnic Korean. Especially not from that Leftist-nationalist rag the Hankyoreh IMHO. Just look at that pathetic infographic to make a complex topic into the most stupidly simple theme to understand. i.e. "Koreans are the granddaddies of all Asia, not Chinese". It is a revision of old Japanese propaganda.
    Can you provide the proof? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinayWoman View Post
    Can you provide the proof? Thanks
    Proof of what? I didn't make any statements, except that believing in ANYTHING Korean newspapers write about genetics is about as trustworthy as believing the Chinese Communist party. Just look at how completely idiotic that infographic is. For instance, it is clear that Jurchens are as close to these people as Koreans are, but nonetheless they had to illustrate Koreans as "perfect matches" even though we know that sounds idiotic as no one is perfect matches for tribes living 3000 years ago. It's horeshit for the Korean masses.
    書堂개 삼 년에 풍월 읊는다

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    Genome-wide data from two early Neolithic East Asian individuals dating to 7700 years ago

    Veronika Siska1,*, Eppie Ruth Jones1,2, Sungwon Jeon3, Youngjune Bhak3, Hak-Min Kim3, Yun Sung Cho3, Hyunho Kim4, Kyusang Lee5, Elizaveta Veselovskaya6, Tatiana Balueva6, Marcos Gallego-Llorente1, Michael Hofreiter7, Daniel G. Bradley2, Anders Eriksson1, Ron Pinhasi8,*,†, Jong Bhak3,4,*,†,‡ and Andrea Manica1,*,†

    ↵*Corresponding author. Email: vs389@cam.ac.uk (V.S.); ron.pinhasi@ucd.ie (R.P.); jongbhak@genomics.org (J.B.); am315@cam.ac.uk (A.M.)
    ↵† These authors contributed equally to this work.
    ↵‡ Adjunct professor at Seoul National University, Seoul, Republic of Korea.
    Science Advances 01 Feb 2017:
    Vol. 3, no. 2, e1601877
    DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.1601877
    http://advances.sciencemag.org/conte.../e1601877.full

    Ancient genomes have revolutionized our understanding of Holocene prehistory and, particularly, the Neolithic transition in western Eurasia. In contrast, East Asia has so far received little attention, despite representing a core region at which the Neolithic transition took place independently ~3 millennia after its onset in the Near East. We report genome-wide data from two hunter-gatherers from Devil’s Gate, an early Neolithic cave site (dated to ~7.7 thousand years ago) located in East Asia, on the border between Russia and Korea. Both of these individuals are genetically most similar to geographically close modern populations from the Amur Basin, all speaking Tungusic languages, and, in particular, to the Ulchi. The similarity to nearby modern populations and the low levels of additional genetic material in the Ulchi imply a high level of genetic continuity in this region during the Holocene, a pattern that markedly contrasts with that reported for Europe.
    Other populations that show high affinity to Devil’s Gate are the Oroqen and the Hezhen—both of whom, like the Ulchi, are Tungusic speakers from the Amur Basin—as well as modern Koreans and Japanese
    As afar as I know, Hg N and O people are genetically similar. Problem is neolithic N people in manchu area is totally different from O people.
    " The Yellow River valley, located in the southwest region of the West Liao River valley, was one original centre of agriculture in China. O3-M122 is the most abundant haplogroup in both ancient (80%, n=5) and extant population (53%, n=304) of the region [8, 13], but the frequency of O3-M122 only began to rise in the West Liao River valley in the Bronze Age.The ancient West Liao River valley population is significantly different from both the ancient Yellow River Valley population (P<0.01), and the extant Yellow River Valley population (P<0.01)."
    The N people created first civilization in East Asia, Liao civilization in Manchu area. And the pottery culture spread from Amur river area to Liao area. So devil's gate people would have Hg N. Do you know what Hg Ulch people have now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Never ever trust an archeaological/genetic project headed by an ethnic Korean. Especially not from that Leftist-nationalist rag the Hankyoreh IMHO. Just look at that pathetic infographic to make a complex topic into the most stupidly simple theme to understand. i.e. "Koreans are the granddaddies of all Asia, not Chinese". It is a revision of old Japanese propaganda.
    The article says the Ulch are, not Koreans,

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