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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    When I read the book of Brian Sykes, I decided to know to which mtDNA haplogroup I belong.
    When I read 12 years ago an article about 7 mothers
    of Europe it influenced me, but because I created an
    idea about paternaly genetic checking another dozen
    years earlier, so I checked the possiblity to make this,
    and for my hapiness, it was a reality so I did this more
    important test, lefting mt for near future. But since the
    beginning, I suspected, that exept those points on the
    map there is nothing more, but with time, I got to know
    more, and the less this test became relevant, so, I am
    not doing this, and am not going to at now.

    As a genealogist I can say that most people usually starts the researching in ancestral line of the father, but
    line of the mother is postponed for next time - and mostly is searched just line of her father.
    Is searched as all ascendants - or maybe you have in mind
    family and lineage of the m-grandpa, then it is also Y stuff
    of close relative, but different.

    There is no practical matriline almost in whole Europe, and
    even if you want to recreate it, you can ussually go as far
    as couple generations, not bind together anyway.

    Nevertheless the mentioned mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) is inherited in maternal line only, it means that
    in each generation of ancestors is changed its lastname. It is a challenge for each researcher
    So you see.

    My grandmother Marie nee Vaněrka (mother of my mother) was born in 1918 in the town of
    I have 6 generations back, and for now it is enaugh.
    But searching for ascendants after the closest generations
    is pointless and boring, especially, when you are becoming
    aware, that all of these are totally foreign people to each
    other, not even related to ech other in any way. I did it
    from boringness, and still, nothing speciall...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Many Teutonesses detected
    Last edited by Rethel; 02-07-2017 at 12:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Y-DNA can also be transmitted from someone else:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-paternity_event
    Yea, and this is m.in. one of main reasons,
    why this is very important and relevant test!

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    Mtdna sucks. Who d fuck cares about maternal maternal maternal line.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    To Rethel: I do not agree, but thank you for you viewpoint

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    I found out I am U4b1. The earliest known sample is in Sweden 7500 years ago. Looking at this and other Albanians mtdna (mostly Us and Hs), convinced me EV13 is not neolithic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    Yea, and this is m.in. one of main reasons,
    why this is very important and relevant test!
    But you need to find where is your ancestor from year 1300 AD buried, and test his Y-DNA.

    What if it turns out that your genealogical ancestor from the 1300s was not R1a-M458*?

    At some point, for example in the 1400s or the 1500s, there could be an NPE in the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Why the Sir Rethel who is so proude for his pateR1nal line, is afraid to know something more about the heritage what he received from his mother?
    The heritage from my mother was not a mt from paleolithic, becasue she
    belonged to family of her father, and I did not inherited any of heritage
    of my m-grandfather, becasue it is not my rod. Maybe some behaviours,
    customs, which I am not even aware of, casue I used to them, are, and
    which my mother did introduce to our family, as was in every generations,
    but it not means, that I do have something common with some woman living
    4000 years ago in pacyfic islands, becasue at that time, such ascendants
    and "heritages" at that time I (the same as you) have 1,461,501,637,330,
    902,918,203,684,832,716,283,019,655,932,542,976 and if you belive, that
    it was 20,000 years ago then statistically this number of your equally important
    heritages will be as much as: 6,668,014,432,879, 854,274,079,851,790,721,257,
    797,144,758,322,315,908,160,396,257,811,764,037,23 7,817,632,071, 521, 432,
    200,871,554,290,742,929,910,593,433,240,445,888,80 1,654,119,365,080,363,
    356,052,330,830,046,095,157,579,514,014,558,463,07 8,285,911,814,024,728,
    965,016,135,886,601,981,690,748,037,476,461,291,16 3,877,376 - so, frankly
    saying, almost every single human being living on earth in the period since 1000
    years ago into begining of humankind. Do you respect and cultivate every single
    heritage which you have from this people? No? Why?
    Last edited by Rethel; 02-06-2017 at 08:38 PM.

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    Because you wrote that you traced your paternal line back to around 1300:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel
    Niom, tylko znowu: nie o całym klasterze mowa w Niemczech (czy wciąż całkiem hipotetycznych
    Włoszech) a o ludziach (tudzież jednym człowieku) tuż sprzed 1300 roku - powiedzmy.
    As for this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel
    so frankly saying, almost every single human being in since 1000 years ago into begining of humankind.
    Wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedigree_collapse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    To Rethel: I do not agree, but thank you for you viewpoint
    Becasue it is your profession, so you have to

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