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    I did not write about my clients but generally about the people.
    Nevertheless, the clients wish to know their paternal line usually.
    Only 2 times I was asked to do the maternal line, because they wished to know data what correspond with the results of their mtDNA.
    Perhaps I am actually impercipient, but how you can write that matriline does not exist?
    Perhaps one is not important for you but how can be non-existing?
    If your mother exists, existed her mother, also her mother, etc., and all of the women makes some kind of ancestral line.

    Dobra noc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    I did not write about my clients but generally about the people.
    Nevertheless, the clients wish to know their paternal line usually.
    And now ask yourself why? Becasue people have an instinct
    which tells them what is important. Until autosomalist came
    (or genealogist of EEEEEVRYYRTHIING) and will break him.

    Only 2 times I was asked to do the maternal line, because they wished to know data what correspond with the results of their mtDNA.
    So you see yourself.
    Exeption proves the rule.

    Perhaps I am actually impercipient, but how you can write that matriline does not exist?
    Normaly. There is nothing, what bind it together. Such
    line has no name, nor tradition, no solidarity, nor idea
    about common origin, no structure, no reason, no nest,
    and no judical or financial inheridable at least historical
    structure, nor inheritance, no coat of arms, no slogan,
    no motto, no logo, no common identity, no purpose, no
    planning, no even has an instinct of feeling of such need
    to have such things - so logically there is no line.

    Perhaps one is not important for you but how can be non-existing?
    For me, existing of Przemislovci can be not important,
    but my feeling about them does not change the fact,
    that they existed... And on the other hand, it can be
    important for me, that all women which I found in the
    genealogical records, and which all came down from a
    one ancestor, can be important from the (known only
    to me) reason and feelings, but it doesn't mean, that
    such group of people and lines exist - it is only my own
    feeling about these things, not a real matter.

    If your mother exists, existed her mother, also her mother, etc., and all of the women makes some kind of ancestral line.
    No, they do not. They do not even make four-five
    generational entity or tradition, not even two-three
    generational (exept personal feelings), and everybody
    in your line, which you presented belonged to different
    families. Every third or fourth woman did not even know
    about existence of others, and did not even feel some
    theoretical solidarity or mistical common identity.

    Why?

    Becasue women are different, they don;t care, and they
    do not do such things, they will always follow the men.
    Even feminists.

    And very good! they do not have to be like men, becasue
    they are different, have their own values, way of thinking,
    they value different things & differently deal with problems.

    Look, how many fictional problems did you create by putting
    them into male frames, and expecting, that they act the same,
    knowing exectly, that it is not truth, neither historicly, neither
    genealogicaly, neither practicaly.

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    MTDNA shows I am directly descended from the original people of Americas. And my subclade is most common for my ethnic group. MY ydna on other hand is more vague. Subclade at acertain point is Rare but also vague. Only thing I can conclude is that most of the people within my haplogroup subclade at a certain point were probably cardium pottery culture during neolithic Europe and most of the of the cousin lineages were from italy and sardinia. The closest Ydna to me discovered is from Rise408 ancient armenia but its 1 mutation from me

    My MTDNA actually gave me more clarity than my Ydna.

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    In my case not too much. J1c"X" is pretty bland.

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    Bump,
    maybe someone made a progress...

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    Rethel you should get some balls and order an autosomal DNA test.

    I saw people who score 30% or more Eskimo and still look very Mazovian.

    So you can't be sure how Inuit/Eskimo you are until you order a test.

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    As for the usefuleness of my mtDNA test. I learned a lot about being W.

    For example - the family of Jesus belonged to mtDNA haplogroup W:

    http://www.thecid.com/#ancient

    Results from the Tomb of the Shroud in Israel (originally purported to be the family of Jesus) date to the first century AD and are believed to be W

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Rethel you should get some balls and order an autosomal DNA test.

    I saw people who score 30% or more Eskimo and still look very Mazovian.

    So you can't be sure how Inuit/Eskimo you are until you order a test.
    I can have even 30% of pygmy intestils - it doesn't bother me at all.

    Bebechy ni flaki are not me, especially, if they are divided in some percentages.

    And btw, autosomally, I have only 12.5% of (western) Masovian tripe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    I can have even 30% of pygmy
    Rethel but what if it turns out that you have 10% of Jewish admixture?

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