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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani...anian_campaign

    You're talking out of your ass, as usual. The Romanian front was the LONGEST in the whole fucking war.

    While the Romanian Army was advancing in Transylvania, the first counterattack came from Field Marshal August von Mackensen in command of a multi-national force composed of the Bulgarian Third Army, a German brigade and two divisions of the Ottoman VI Army Corps, whose units began arriving on the Dobrudja front after the initial battles.

    Overall command was now under Erich von Falkenhayn (recently replaced as German Chief of Staff), who started his own counterattack on 18 September.

    To summarize for you: Romanians pushed the AH back in Transylvania then the front stabilized. But soon Mackensen attacked from the South. Falkenhayn (who was German, btw) came with the might of the German army and pushed the Romanians back. The AH army was known for its incompetence. Stears, do yourself a favor and don't try to argue with me on the topic of WW1 because my knowledge is vastly superior to yours.

    Also, your claim that the Romanians had the largest ratio of soldiers killed is laughable, to say the least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani...s-Piechart.svg

    You forget, the ongoing Balkan Front Russian Front Italian front for A-H Army (A-H Army had to fought with 4times bigger Entente Forces) Germans even had the Western Front (France, British Empire, USA Canada Australia)
    Despite the Romanian forces have never faced such enormous numerically superior enemy, they lost the war fascinating quickly, 70% part of their territory, 8 of the 10 biggest cities including their small balkanite capital city Bucharestm and it happened within 4 months!!! The laughable Romanian army suffered the highest casualty ratio of WW1.

    And you signed armistice and peace treaty (unlike the Serbian Government and Army)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    You forget, the ongoing Balkan Front Russian Front Italian front for A-H Army (A-H Army had to fought with 4times bigger Entente Forces) Germans even had the Western Front (France, British Empire, USA Canada Australia)
    Romanian forces have never faced such enormous numerically superior enemy, despite of this they lost the war, 3/4 part of their territory together with their small balkanite capital city Bucharest within 4 months!!! The laughable Romanian army suffered the highest casualty ratio of WW1.

    And you signed armistice and peace treaty (unlike the Serbian Government and Army)
    I just posted a graph. The AH had 90% casualties. You're delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    I just posted a graph. The AH had 90% casualties. You're delusional.
    You fantasy numbers are lughable. A-H Army conscripted 7,2 Million men. A-H army lost only
    1,200,000 men during WW1.
    It is only 16%.
    Do you have problem with simple mathematics?

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    Romanian military deaths 595,000 casualties, for 1.3 Million men. Can we call that shit as an Army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    You fantasy numbers are lughable. A-H Army conscripted 7,2 Million men. A-H army lost only
    1,200,000 men during WW1.
    It is only 16%.
    Do you have problem with simple mathematics?
    The 7,020,000 is KIA+WIA+PoW (prisoners of war). I do not have a problem with simple mathematics, you have a problem with the notion of "casualties".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    The 7,020,000 is KIA+WIA+PoW (prisoners of war). I do not have a problem with simple mathematics, you have a problem with the notion of "casualties".
    ​Wrong. Prisoners of war, most of them was due the political decisions in the italian front after the armistice and (after the A-H Empire dissolved), and not related to any military operations. They were simply registered by the italians, and they were sent home.

    The number of remained romanian army was so small, that the romanian army ws only 50,000 men in the Hungarian-Romanian war (smaller than the number of policemen in Kingdom of Hungary). Even Albania had such a "large army" of 50,000 men. Romanian army faced soldiers of Kun Bela from some proletarian districts of Budapest (numbered similar small army like the romanians)

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    After the end of the WW1, by a notion of Woodrow Wilson's pacifism, the naive liberal Hungarian PM Mihály Károlyi ordered the full disarmament of Hungarian Army, which contained more than 1,4 M. soldiers. Also Don't forget, the timed attack of "brave" Czechs Romanians Serbian-French armies started their joint military operations only AFTER the Hungarian total self-disarmament. Where they too timid to attack until the Hungarian self-disarmament?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post


    ​Wrong. Prisoners of war, most of them was due the political decisions in the italian front after the armistice and (after the A-H Empire dissolved), and not related to any military operations. They were simply registered by the italians, and they were sent home.

    The number of remained romanian army was so small, that the romanian army ws only 50,000 men in the Hungarian-Romanian war (smaller than the number of policemen in Kingdom of Hungary). Even Albania had such a "large army", and they feced soldiers of Kun Bela from some proletarian districts of Budapest (numbered similar small army like the romanians)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...ties#Footnotes

    The U.K. War Office estimate for Austro-Hungarian casualties up to 31 December 1918: total casualties of 7,020,000 including 1,200,000 killed, 3,620,000 wounded and 2,200,000 prisoners.[161] Preliminary figures up to the end of May, 1918, given by the U. K. Director of Military Intelligence give the following estimated totals: 800,000 killed, 1,800,000 prisoners/missing, and 3,200,000 wounded/sick, for a total of 5,800,000. An additional 80,000 killed, 320,000 wounded/sick, and 20,000 prisoners are estimated in the Austrian offensive against Italy from 1st June to 24 October 1918. In the same time there 72,500 casualties on the Balkans and Western Fronts. Finally, during the last Italian offensive the prisoners claimed by the Italians amounted to 448,000, while a further 30,000 Austro-Hungarians were killed and 50,000 wounded.

    Stop with your fucking bullshit, you pathetic loser. You only negate the suffering of millions and millions of brave Hungarian, Austrian, Bosnian and even Romanian soldiers who fought in the AH army. You're a lame excuse of a human being as the AH army was a lame excuse of an army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grishnack View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...ties#Footnotes

    The U.K. War Office estimate for Austro-Hungarian casualties up to 31 December 1918: total casualties of 7,020,000 including 1,200,000 killed, 3,620,000 wounded and 2,200,000 prisoners.[161] Preliminary figures up to the end of May, 1918, given by the U. K. Director of Military Intelligence give the following estimated totals: 800,000 killed, 1,800,000 prisoners/missing, and 3,200,000 wounded/sick, for a total of 5,800,000. An additional 80,000 killed, 320,000 wounded/sick, and 20,000 prisoners are estimated in the Austrian offensive against Italy from 1st June to 24 October 1918. In the same time there 72,500 casualties on the Balkans and Western Fronts. Finally, during the last Italian offensive the prisoners claimed by the Italians amounted to 448,000, while a further 30,000 Austro-Hungarians were killed and 50,000 wounded.

    Stop with your fucking bullshit, you pathetic loser. You only negate the suffering of millions and millions of brave Hungarian, Austrian, Bosnian and even Romanian soldiers who fought in the AH army. You're a lame excuse of a human being as the AH army was a lame excuse of an army.

    On December 1918. there were not A-H Empire, only 1,2M men died (16% is one of the lowest ratio in the WW1) Wounded category included graze of skin, legs are only shattered, It can mean anything even the loss of leg. Everybody who attended a doctor during his front-line service were registered. The technical POWs who became pows only after political decisions and after the armistice are not the same as POWS during wartime. (Yes you can include them into the statistics, but political decisions are not military operations)

    Military Deaths in the Italian Front: 650,000 men, A-H army military death in Italian front: 240,000 men only.

    Your biggest problem, that you confused the real Wartime statistics, and the statistics which was created after the armistice (caused by political decision after the integral disintegration of the Empire). Yes, these administrative (non-war time era POWS) are considered as POWS by international law and accordingly they appear in the statistics.

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