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Yes pretty much. Greeks even invented homosexuality.
but I've seen tons of east Asian (Filipinos, Viets especially) and Latino fags here in Cali.
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Not in America. look at what GtG wrote. Add in Latinos and east Asians and this is 100% accurate.
It is whichever country of those who most assertively deny that it is their country. That means Russian, Croatian, MENA, etc. In the USA our gay clubs are filled mostly with Al Qaeda, Greeks, Italians, Puerto-Ricans, Croatian, Blacks, Jews, etc. The Muslims guy who shot up a gay bar last year wast Muslin, his victims primarily Black, Latino, Mooseleen.
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The truth about sexuality in ancient Greece and Rome
GSN takes a look into homosexuality in the ancient Greco-Roman world.
Most of us know that the ancient pagan world was more tolerant of homosexuality than the one god religions that would follow. But how tolerant were the ancient Greeks and Romans? It turns out they weren’t nearly as tolerant as you might like to think.
Neither the Greeks or the Romans had a concept of homosexuality or heterosexuality.
Men were assumed to be attracted to both males and females, and to express a preference for just one sex was considered eccentric.
But as both societies were intensely patriarchal what was important in sexual relationships was the status of who did the penetrating and their age.
In this world the notion of sex between two grown men was deeply taboo as it was seen to reduce the passive partner to the level of a woman.
Indeed if the Greeks and Romans did not outlaw it, it was because the shame of the act was punishment enough – though the weight of shame fell mostly on the penetrated.
Of greater taboo still was for an older man to allow himself to be penetrated by a younger man – the modern word ‘pathetic’ derives from the Latin for such a man.
Where sex between males was deemed acceptable to occur was between men and youths, and in theory it was only supposed to be inter-crucial (where one partner grips the other’s penis between his thighs)
In both societies youths were considered to be able to consent to sex from around their mid teens, which was similar to the age that girls were considered ready for marriage, and it was acceptable for youths to be in same-sex relationships until they could grow a full beard – and for this reason, there were all manner of depilatory products on sale in order to help you keep your boyfriend respectable!
After this age in Greece, the young man was expected to find a wife and go about starting a family, having been mentored by his older partner, with the two men staying friends.
Few lesbian voices come to us from the ancient world but the lyric poet Sappho is a notable exception and her love poems for other women speak down to us through the ages. And of course, the island of her birth, Lesbos, gives us the word ‘lesbian’ that we still use today.
Sex between women wasn’t illegal, but, like the Victorians, the Greeks and Romans simply refused to believe it happened.
In comparison, sex between men in the Roman world was a mostly more sinister affair.
Having sex with a free born Roman male could see you up on charges for ruining the youth’s future reputation. But slaves and foreigners were all fair game.
Thus when the emperor Hadrian took a male lover in the form of a Bythinian youth named Antinous, as a foreigner it was perfectly acceptable for Antinous to appear in public next to the emperor and his wife Vibia Sabina as his lover.
Hadrian and Antinous were lovers for five years until Antinous fell from a boat in the Nile and drowned. Some have suggested he killed himself to avoid shaming the emperor as he grew older.
Heartbroken, Hadrian had Antinous declared a god, built temples to him all over the empire, named a star after him and built a city in Egypt, Antinopolis, in his honor.
When the Roman Empire became Christian the temples of the cult of Antinous were destroyed – though many of the statues ended up in the Vatican art collections where they were seen by the artist Raphael, who used his likeness when painting angels as his model of male perfection.
Homosexual characters were often mocked as figures of fun in bawdy Roman comedies, but at the same time same-sex couples, cross dressers and male prostitutes would have been common sights on the streets.
And some couples did buck the discrimination that was thrown at them by publicly celebrating their commitment through same-sex marriage.
These include two emperors – Nero and Elagabalus, but we know of many others.
Such marriages were not legally recognized but by 342AD the dual Christian emperors Constantius and Constans had them banned on threat of death, and homosexuality in the Roman Empire was silenced for centuries to come.
So what is the verdict on how the Greek and Roman civilizations treated their LGBT citizens? Certainly there was a lot of discrimination and extreme social stigma for any relationship between men that fell outside of a very tight set of parameters.
However compared to what was to follow into much of the 20th Century, they were centuries ahead of their time.
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It was a joke
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Homosexuality was mocked and derided by Ancient Greeks. You only have to read Aristophanes to realise that the majority of people were completely straight and homosexuality was the but of jokes and not considered mainstream.
If you read Plato, Aristophanes, Aeschines and Plutarch you realize that the people who penetrated bottoms were the object of disgust and ridicule. In Athens they were forbidden from holding public office. In other parts of Greece they were put to death.
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I'm being really honest here. I don't think any ethnicity is more gay than any other. I don't really understand being gay but if that is what someone wants and if they are an adult then who are we to judge. As long as someone is adult and that is their sexual preference I respect that. Most people are heterosexual and that makes sense because it doesn't make sense genetically that we are not here to procreate. In a free society people should be able to be honest and if they are homosexual they should be able to chose their sexual partners without being ridiculed.
Most people are heterosexual though and homosexuality is a minority and I think this is the case no matter what someone's ethinicity.
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Why do you keep worrying about irrelevant things? Yall should be looking for a job, while you hate minorities, they are getting richer and you are getting poorer. Money is the only thing that matters in life.
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