History of the Macedonian Issue in Arvanitovlachia

[HellLander87]

Can you tell me what words he told you? I am curious to know. I believe those are words from the joke arsenal. We normally say how you say some words in Prilepski and those expressions probably have been spread out across Yugoslavia as in Makedonski language. The citizens of Prilep tend to twist some words or even to translate names. I have heard how to say Jovan Jovanovic Zmaj in Macedonian (Prilepski) and the translation is "Јонче Јончески Ламјата/Jonce Jonceski Lamjata"

probably something with raketata granatata.tatatatatatata

[MegaArgus1]

probably something with raketata granatata.tatatatatatata

Do you speak Macedonian? It sounds you do.

[DarknessWin]

Do you speak Macedonian? It sounds you do.

This dialect its not Macedonian, it used during ottoman times in the region of ottoman macedonian villayet.
It have mostly bulgarian words with a mix of greek,albanian and turkish

Used from all the population in the region

You fucked everything with the propaganda about macedonia, alexander etc.
You make enemies all of the neighborhood countries and your future is dead. Bad politic

[MegaArgus1]

This dialect its not Macedonian, it used during ottoman times in the region of ottoman macedonian villayet.
It have mostly bulgarian words with a mix of greek,albanian and turkish

Used from all the population in the region

You fucked everything with the propaganda about macedonia, alexander etc.
You make enemies all of the neighborhood countries and your future is dead. Bad politic

I am not here to be thought by illiterate chauvinist.
Macedonian is my mother tongue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_language
Macedonian (/ˌmæsᵻˈdoʊniən/; македонски, tr. makedonski, pronounced [maˈkɛdɔnski ˈjazik] ( listen)) is a South Slavic language spoken as a first language by around two million people, principally in the Republic of Macedonia and the Macedonian diaspora, with a smaller number of speakers throughout the transnational region of Macedonia. It is the official language of the Republic of Macedonia and a recognized minority language in parts of Albania, Romania and Serbia.

Standard Macedonian was implemented as the official language of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia in 1945[8] and has since developed a modern literature. Most of the codification was formalized during the same period.[9][10][10]

Macedonian dialects form a continuum with Bulgarian dialects; they in turn form a broader continuum with Serbo-Croatian through the transitional Torlakian dialects.

The name of the Macedonian language is a matter of political controversy in Greece and Bulgaria[11] as is its distinctiveness compared to Bulgarian in Bulgaria.[12][13]

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http://www.omniglot.com/writing/macedonian.htm
Macedonian (македонски)

Macedonian is a South Slavic language spoken by about three million people. There are some two million speakers in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), and perhaps another million or so in other countries, especially in Albania, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, the USA, Australia and Canada. Macedonian is recognised as a minority language in Albania, Romania and Serbia, and is taught at university in a number of countries, including Australia, Canada, Croatia, Italy, Russia, Serbia, the USA and the UK.

[MegaArgus1]

https://www.alsintl.com/resources/languages/Macedonian/
Early History of the Macedonian Language
As a Slavic language, Macedonian traces its origins back to the language of the Slav people, who migrated from Old Poland and settled throughout Eastern Europe in the 6th century AD. Three primary Slavic language groups emerged as the Slav peoples resettled: Eastern, Western, and Southern.

Macedonian originated from this last group. The first Slavic language of literacy was one developed by the missionaries Cyril and Methodius around the 9th century AD, who hoped to bring their religion to the Slavic-speaking peoples of the Eastern European regions.

[Hrant Dink]

There are no Fyromanians from Pella. If anything this post should be in the Bulgaria section since that's where the relatives of Mr. Stoidis emigrated in the 1920s. I guess his ancestor was one of the few local Bulgarians who didn't want to leave Greece.

[MegaArgus1]

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/An...nia/shea2.html
Many scholars have concluded that the ancient Macedonian language was not a Greek dialect and that it was more or less related to the languages of Macedonia's northern neighbors, the Illyrians and the Thracians. These scholars include Muller and Mayer, writing in the nineteenth century, and Thumb, Thumb-Kieckers, Vasmer, Kacarov, Beshevljev, Budimir, Pisani, Russu, Baric, Poghirc, Chantraine, Katicic, and Nerosnak, writing in the twentieth. Here attention will be given to sources more readily accessible to those who want to inquire further.

[Coolguy1]

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/An...nia/shea2.html
Many scholars have concluded that the ancient Macedonian language was not a Greek dialect and that it was more or less related to the languages of Macedonia's northern neighbors, the Illyrians and the Thracians. These scholars include Muller and Mayer, writing in the nineteenth century, and Thumb, Thumb-Kieckers, Vasmer, Kacarov, Beshevljev, Budimir, Pisani, Russu, Baric, Poghirc, Chantraine, Katicic, and Nerosnak, writing in the twentieth. Here attention will be given to sources more readily accessible to those who want to inquire further.

I believe it is well established that the Macedonian language was just a northern Greek dialect, with the linguistic nucleus centered in Pieria, which has always been Greek speaking, even according to Kanchov and other Bulgarians anthropologists who toured the region.

[Hrant Dink]

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/An...nia/shea2.html
Many scholars have concluded that the ancient Macedonian language was not a Greek dialect and that it was more or less related to the languages of Macedonia's northern neighbors, the Illyrians and the Thracians. These scholars include Muller and Mayer, writing in the nineteenth century, and Thumb, Thumb-Kieckers, Vasmer, Kacarov, Beshevljev, Budimir, Pisani, Russu, Baric, Poghirc, Chantraine, Katicic, and Nerosnak, writing in the twentieth. Here attention will be given to sources more readily accessible to those who want to inquire further.

Yet the ancient Macedonians decided make Greek the lingua franca in every single post-Alexander kingdom. Amazing how British, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, etc., colonizers never decided to spread a language different than their mother tongue.