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    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 40.49
    2 WHG 24.03
    3 EHG 20.45
    4 Basal 10.90
    5 African 2.20

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Maros_BA @ 13.593277
    2 Vatya_MBA @ 14.702510
    3 Germany_BA @ 15.110004
    4 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 15.110004
    5 British_Celtic @ 19.275520
    6 Hungary_BA @ 19.981655
    7 Alberstedt_LN @ 20.646147
    8 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 20.848244
    9 Hungary_MBA @ 21.126194
    10 British_IronAge @ 21.437515
    11 Halberstadt_LBA @ 22.306648
    12 Hungary_IronAge @ 22.426243
    13 Swedish_LN @ 23.449368
    14 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 23.667957
    15 Nordic_MN_B @ 23.714512
    16 Nordic_BA @ 24.122980
    17 British_AngloSaxon @ 24.500336
    18 Bell_Beaker @ 24.557898
    19 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 25.207588
    20 Nordic_LN @ 25.343138

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek_Neolithic +50% Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic @ 6.269783


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% British_Roman +25% Iberian_Chalcolitic @ 3.613949


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
    1 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + British_Roman + Spain_MN @ 3.003960
    2 Bell_Beaker + British_AngloSaxon + British_Roman + Spain_MN @ 3.045812
    3 Bell_Beaker + British_Roman + Halberstadt_LBA + Spain_MN @ 3.071720
    4 Bell_Beaker + British_AngloSaxon + British_Roman + Esperstedt_MN @ 3.089661
    5 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + British_Roman + Scandinavian_MN @ 3.105385
    6 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 3.108330
    7 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 3.108330
    8 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 3.108330
    9 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + British_Roman + Scandinavian_MN @ 3.113027
    10 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Germany_BA + Levant_N @ 3.113878
    11 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Germany_Bronze_Age + Levant_N @ 3.113878
    12 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + British_Roman + Spain_MN @ 3.133048
    13 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + British_Roman + Spain_MN @ 3.136805
    14 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + British_Roman + Esperstedt_MN @ 3.158929
    15 Bell_Beaker + British_Roman + Halberstadt_LBA + Scandinavian_MN @ 3.160984
    16 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Karsdorf_LN @ 3.174600
    17 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Karsdorf_LN @ 3.174600
    18 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Karsdorf_LN @ 3.174600
    19 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + British_Roman + Iberia_Chalcolithic @ 3.194188
    20 Bell_Beaker + British_IronAge + British_Roman + Spain_MN @ 3.205355
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilma View Post
    Waiting for RN97 to say "I TOLD U DAT U R CENTRAL EURO GURL"

    WTF ? Any french or Belgian here scored something similar ? Is this normal for Norman people to score that ?

    My Mt haplogroup subclade may come from Bell Beaker culture and some say from Funnelbeaker culture in central Saale-Elbe region of Germany (Salzmünde Culture).

    Place of origin : Bavaria, Thuringia, Saxony-Anhalt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saale)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzm%C3%BCnde_group

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent

    1 Neolithic 39.48
    2 WHG 31.31
    3 EHG 20.94
    4 Basal 6.57


    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Maros_BA @ 11.187159
    2 British_Celtic @ 11.577639
    3 Hungary_BA @ 12.591937
    4 Vatya_MBA @ 12.621613
    5 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 13.001638
    6 Alberstedt_LN @ 13.124611
    7 Germany_BA @ 13.333889
    8 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 13.333889
    9 British_IronAge @ 13.343987
    10 Halberstadt_LBA @ 14.435600
    11 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 16.214472
    12 Nordic_BA @ 16.308773
    13 British_AngloSaxon @ 16.824846
    14 Nordic_MN_B @ 17.090895
    15 Nordic_LN @ 18.576420
    16 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 18.943424
    17 Unetice_EBA @ 19.474283
    18 Bell_Beaker @ 19.694355
    19 Nordic_IA @ 20.556057
    20 Nordic_LBA @ 20.776556

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Hungary_CA +50% Samara_HG @ 5.183518

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Bell_Beaker_Germany +25% Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic +25% LBK_EN @ 2.151351

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 1.190546
    2 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 1.190546
    3 Bell_Beaker + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.735397
    4 Bell_Beaker + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.735397
    5 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Halberstadt_LBA + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.814441
    6 Halberstadt_LBA + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.814441
    7 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.853122
    8 Anatolia_Neolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + Halberstadt_LBA @ 1.887825
    9 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.892644
    10 Alberstedt_LN + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.901528

    Another question :

    According to the fact several of this pops might have originated from Saxony area, may we confirm I have Saxon ancestors (even though both are distant in time) ? Which would be totally accurate considering they settled massively in central Normandy where 75% of my Norman ancestors comes from.
    Those samples are ancient, you cannot really compare them to the actual regions, they can be very different to what their name suggest. For example GermanStuttgart is a neolithic sample, more or less similar to Sardinians. Swedish_LN is also about the same, with more WHG (absorbed later in the neolithic period). Bell Beaker and Corded Ware are more IE oriented. Overall it makes total sense what you get here as best fits, most Europeans are a mix of MN/LN + EMBA to different degrees, but we are looking at a big picture here, in the last 10ky or so.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 36.38
    2 WHG 31.16
    3 EHG 24.52
    4 Basal 6.28

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 British_Celtic @ 9.802114
    2 Alberstedt_LN @ 10.486785
    3 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 10.852015
    4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 12.131700
    5 British_IronAge @ 12.507486
    6 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 13.885465
    7 Nordic_MN_B @ 14.324548
    8 Maros_BA @ 14.937868
    9 British_AngloSaxon @ 15.112370
    10 Bell_Beaker @ 15.362597
    11 Nordic_BA @ 15.373832
    12 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 15.530875
    13 Hungary_BA @ 15.660160
    14 Nordic_LN @ 15.731317
    15 Germany_BA @ 16.689966
    16 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 16.689966
    17 Hungary_IronAge @ 16.775326
    18 Unetice_EBA @ 16.846266
    19 Vatya_MBA @ 17.017099
    20 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 17.198612

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% GermanStuttgart_LBK +50% Samara_HG @ 5.181421


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bell_Beaker +25% Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic +25% Hungary_EN @ 2.131247


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_EN @ 2.131247
    2 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Europe_EN @ 2.254976
    3 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Tyrolean_Iceman_EN @ 2.272629
    4 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Estonia + LBK_EN @ 2.407934
    5 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Estonia + Starcevo_EN @ 2.433707

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilma View Post
    Waiting for RN97 to say "I TOLD U DAT U R CENTRAL EURO GURL"

    WTF ? Any french or Belgian here scored something similar ? Is this normal for Norman people to score that ?

    My Mt haplogroup subclade may come from Bell Beaker culture and some say from Funnelbeaker culture in central Saale-Elbe region of Germany (Salzmünde Culture).

    Place of origin : Bavaria, Thuringia, Saxony-Anhalt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saale)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzm%C3%BCnde_group

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent

    1 Neolithic 39.48
    2 WHG 31.31
    3 EHG 20.94
    4 Basal 6.57


    Using 1 population approximation:

    1 Maros_BA @ 11.187159
    2 British_Celtic @ 11.577639
    3 Hungary_BA @ 12.591937
    4 Vatya_MBA @ 12.621613
    5 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 13.001638
    6 Alberstedt_LN @ 13.124611
    7 Germany_BA @ 13.333889
    8 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 13.333889
    9 British_IronAge @ 13.343987
    10 Halberstadt_LBA @ 14.435600
    11 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 16.214472
    12 Nordic_BA @ 16.308773
    13 British_AngloSaxon @ 16.824846
    14 Nordic_MN_B @ 17.090895
    15 Nordic_LN @ 18.576420
    16 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 18.943424
    17 Unetice_EBA @ 19.474283
    18 Bell_Beaker @ 19.694355
    19 Nordic_IA @ 20.556057
    20 Nordic_LBA @ 20.776556

    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Hungary_CA +50% Samara_HG @ 5.183518

    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Bell_Beaker_Germany +25% Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic +25% LBK_EN @ 2.151351

    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 1.190546
    2 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Swedish_LN @ 1.190546
    3 Bell_Beaker + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.735397
    4 Bell_Beaker + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Srubnaya_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.735397
    5 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Halberstadt_LBA + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.814441
    6 Halberstadt_LBA + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Karsdorf_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.814441
    7 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.853122
    8 Anatolia_Neolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + Halberstadt_LBA @ 1.887825
    9 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.892644
    10 Alberstedt_LN + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Halberstadt_LBA + LBK_EN @ 1.901528

    Another question :

    According to the fact several of this pops might have originated from Saxony area, may we confirm I have Saxon ancestors (even though both are distant in time) ? Which would be totally accurate considering they settled massively in central Normandy where 75% of my Norman ancestors comes from.
    Actually, Bronze Age Hungarians were more northern shifted than any modern population, so no, that doesn't make you "central Euro". Specifically the Vatya and BR1/BR2 samples(and BR2 is only 1000 BC). It's really weird actually, as it was nowhere else, they were even more northern shifted than bronze age Scandos and Balts.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
    oldschool anthropology

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 WHG 37.55
    2 Neolithic 30.82
    3 EHG 25.44
    4 Basal 2.68
    5 Amerindian 1.76
    6 Iran-Mesolithic 1.57

    (735) End of data. popN=151

    Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
    11 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Alberstedt_LN @ 3.631477
    2 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 4.288266
    3 British_Celtic @ 4.539442
    4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 4.563802
    5 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 5.846916
    6 Nordic_MN_B @ 6.105464
    7 British_IronAge @ 6.327232
    8 Nordic_LN @ 6.802773
    9 British_AngloSaxon @ 7.082781
    10 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 7.195453
    11 Unetice_EBA @ 7.620409
    12 Nordic_BA @ 8.596056
    13 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 9.699087
    14 Nordic_IA @ 9.742195
    15 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 9.875177
    16 Nordic_LBA @ 10.527161
    17 Irish_BA @ 11.577404
    18 Bell_Beaker @ 11.635636
    19 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 12.794912
    20 Unetice_MBA @ 12.987393

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Corded_Ware_Germany +50% Vatya_MBA @ 2.127721


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Corded_Ware_Germany +25% Hungary_CA +25% Unetice_EBA @ 1.696220


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Alberstedt_LN + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.062389
    2 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.141034
    3 Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Srubnaya_LBA @ 1.222520
    4 Corded_Ware_Estonia + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG + Unetice_EBA @ 1.277275
    5 Halberstadt_LBA + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG + Sintashta_MBA @ 1.412291
    6 Corded_Ware_Estonia + Hungary_CA + Nordic_LN + Samara_HG @ 1.455072
    7 Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.460592
    8 Halberstadt_LBA + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.496326
    9 British_Celtic + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.508119
    10 British_IronAge + Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG @ 1.516484
    11 Alberstedt_LN + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG + Sintashta_MBA @ 1.528689
    12 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG @ 1.548063
    13 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + Corded_Ware_Estonia + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG @ 1.550984
    14 Bell_Beaker_Germany + Hungary_CA + Samara_HG + Sintashta_MBA @ 1.588722
    15 Bell_Beaker_Czech + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.589796
    16 British_AngloSaxon + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.650493
    17 British_AngloSaxon + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.650493
    18 British_IronAge + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.671856
    19 Hungary_CA + Nordic_LN + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Samara_HG @ 1.675653
    20 Corded_Ware_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA + Unetice_EBA @ 1.696220
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    Eurogenes K13:Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.292434
    Dodecad v3:CEU + CEU + German + Orkney @ 1.508807
    Harappaworld:n-european + n-european + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.186455
    puntDNAL K12 modern:Czech + Dutch_South + English_South + English_South @ 1.900828

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 37.61
    2 EHG 25.31
    3 WHG 19.14
    4 Basal 12.50
    5 Iran-Mesolithic 4.09

    (735) End of data. popN=151

    Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
    11 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungary_IronAge @ 19.646851
    2 Maros_BA @ 20.021631
    3 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 20.897087
    4 Germany_BA @ 21.360790
    5 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 21.360790
    6 Vatya_MBA @ 21.744884
    7 British_Celtic @ 22.983358
    8 Hungary_MBA @ 23.422392
    9 Alberstedt_LN @ 23.514820
    10 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 24.074099
    11 Bell_Beaker @ 24.399479
    12 Anatolia_Chalcolithic @ 24.699524
    13 British_IronAge @ 25.526941
    14 Halberstadt_LBA @ 25.612036
    15 Armenia_LBA @ 26.159100
    16 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 26.173992
    17 Nordic_MN_B @ 26.305565
    18 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 26.658556
    19 Hungary_BA @ 26.752916
    20 Irish_BA @ 26.934072

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenia_Chalcolithic +50% Vatya_MBA @ 4.556396


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Alberstedt_LN +25% GermanStuttgart_LBK +25% Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.080931


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenia_EBA + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Starcevo_EN @ 2.922701
    2 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Srubnaya_LBA + Vatya_MBA @ 3.024993
    3 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Srubnaya_LBA + Vatya_MBA @ 3.024993
    4 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_EBA + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic @ 3.040121
    5 Alberstedt_LN + Alberstedt_LN + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.080931
    6 Alberstedt_LN + Alberstedt_LN + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.080931
    7 Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Vatya_MBA @ 3.100318
    8 Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Vatya_MBA @ 3.100318
    9 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_Chalcolithic + Bell_Beaker + Swedish_LN @ 3.101240
    10 Bell_Beaker + British_IronAge + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.164105
    11 Bell_Beaker + British_IronAge + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.164105
    12 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.235721
    13 Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.235721
    14 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Maros_BA + Srubnaya_LBA @ 3.251714
    15 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Maros_BA + Srubnaya_LBA @ 3.251714
    16 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.316530
    17 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.316530
    18 Alberstedt_LN + British_Celtic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.324475
    19 Alberstedt_LN + British_Celtic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 3.324475
    20 Corded_Ware_Germany + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Maros_BA @ 3.325112

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Those samples are ancient, you cannot really compare them to the actual regions, they can be very different to what their name suggest. For example GermanStuttgart is a neolithic sample, more or less similar to Sardinians. Swedish_LN is also about the same, with more WHG (absorbed later in the neolithic period). Bell Beaker and Corded Ware are more IE oriented. Overall it makes total sense what you get here as best fits, most Europeans are a mix of MN/LN + EMBA to different degrees, but we are looking at a big picture here, in the last 10ky or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Actually, Bronze Age Hungarians were more northern shifted than any modern population, so no, that doesn't make you "central Euro". Specifically the Vatya and BR1/BR2 samples(and BR2 is only 1000 BC). It's really weird actually, as it was nowhere else, they were even more northern shifted than bronze age Scandos and Balts.
    Thanks a lot to you for your explanations, also to Litvin ! I wondered from which side I score this, if it is from Norman side or Septimanian. Tchek is Belgian (we share somewhat close results which makes sense) and he also get similar score of Hungarian as me on many tests. So I guess it comes maybe from my Norman side or maybe it is just typically Western Euro

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    Here's mine. Is Alberstedt_LN Bell Beaker or Corded Ware?

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 WHG 36.50
    2 Neolithic 32.72
    3 EHG 26.20
    4 Basal 2.69

    (735) End of data. popN=151

    Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
    11 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Alberstedt_LN @ 3.214328
    2 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 3.965995
    3 British_Celtic @ 4.107708
    4 Halberstadt_LBA @ 4.965898
    5 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 6.730139
    6 British_IronAge @ 7.098738
    7 Nordic_MN_B @ 7.636869
    8 British_AngloSaxon @ 8.353849
    9 Nordic_LN @ 8.630277
    10 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 8.691219
    11 Nordic_BA @ 9.549367
    12 Unetice_EBA @ 9.551571
    13 Bell_Beaker @ 10.999969
    14 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 11.053674
    15 Nordic_IA @ 11.785776
    16 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 11.809901
    17 Irish_BA @ 12.458625
    18 Nordic_LBA @ 12.538227
    19 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 14.598125
    20 Unetice_MBA @ 14.646253

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Alberstedt_LN +50% Alberstedt_LN @ 3.214328


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bell_Beaker +25% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Swedish_LN @ 1.585456


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.585456
    2 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.737889
    3 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.737889
    4 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Swedish_LN @ 1.755961
    5 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Swedish_LN @ 1.844996
    6 Bell_Beaker_Czech + Hungary_CA + Karsdorf_LN + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.891963
    7 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Halberstadt_LBA + Swedish_LN @ 1.919860
    8 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_LN + Swedish_LN @ 1.930990
    9 Corded_Ware_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Halberstadt_LBA + Hungary_CA @ 1.941096
    10 Hungary_CA + Irish_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.955296
    11 British_AngloSaxon + Hungary_CA + Karsdorf_LN + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.962111
    12 Halberstadt_LBA + Hungary_CA + Karsdorf_LN + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.965650
    13 Corded_Ware_Estonia + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.976517
    14 Corded_Ware_Estonia + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.976517
    15 Bell_Beaker_Czech + Corded_Ware_Germany + Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA @ 2.004563
    16 Nordic_BattleAxe + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Swedish_LN @ 2.089862
    17 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_MN_B + Swedish_LN @ 2.113183
    18 Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + Hungary_CA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.135670
    19 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + British_Celtic + Swedish_LN @ 2.154100
    20 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Czech + Swedish_LN @ 2.154680

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilma View Post
    Thanks a lot to you for your explanations, also to Litvin ! I wondered from which side I score this, if it is from Norman side or Septimanian. Tchek is Belgian (we share somewhat close results which makes sense) and he also get similar score of Hungarian as me on many tests. So I guess it comes maybe from my Norman side or maybe it is just typically Western Euro
    Ancient Hungary was more western, some of their Bronze age samples are always close to to us. It certainly had more eastern influences post BA. There s also the bias of having a lot of samples from Hungary, from the typical neolithic, to the Bronze Age and Copper Age and even some late Hunter survivors (KO1). It's really easy to retrace the region's history as we have samples from each era, which is rare for a country.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Here's mine. Is Alberstedt_LN Bell Beaker or Corded Ware?
    Just late neolithic, so lots of WHG/SHG, and already a bit of Bronze Age influence. It's kind of a LN and Bell Beaker cross.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 31.13
    2 EHG 24.52
    3 WHG 20.83
    4 Basal 10.74
    5 Iran-Mesolithic 4.53
    6 SEA 2.84
    7 Siberian 2.34
    8 ASI 1.81
    9 Amerindian 1.09

    (735) End of data. popN=151

    Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
    11 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungary_IronAge @ 14.567451
    2 British_Celtic @ 20.837038
    3 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 21.030315
    4 Alberstedt_LN @ 21.085613
    5 Bell_Beaker @ 21.740919
    6 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 21.913448
    7 Unetice_MBA @ 22.006168
    8 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 22.284672
    9 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 22.405535
    10 Irish_BA @ 22.421602
    11 Maros_BA @ 22.559284
    12 Nordic_MN_B @ 22.810270
    13 British_IronAge @ 23.200684
    14 Halberstadt_LBA @ 23.238771
    15 Armenia_LBA @ 23.266441
    16 Nordic_LN @ 23.503714
    17 Germany_BA @ 24.022207
    18 Germany_Bronze_Age @ 24.022207
    19 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 24.215826
    20 Vatya_MBA @ 24.498159

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenia_Chalcolithic +50% Nordic_BA @ 6.340112


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Anatolia_Chalcolithic +25% Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic +25% Irish_BA @ 3.485639


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
    1 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + LBK_EN + Scythian_IA @ 1.510263
    2 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 1.513284
    3 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Starcevo_EN @ 1.882132
    4 Greek_Neolithic + Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 2.156705
    5 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Starcevo_EN @ 2.312871
    6 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Spain_EN @ 2.318959
    7 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_EN + Scythian_IA @ 2.347597
    8 Armenia_MBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_IronAge + LBK_EN @ 2.374855
    9 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_MBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_IronAge @ 2.516399
    10 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Spain_EN @ 2.587678
    11 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Starcevo_EN @ 2.610724
    12 Anatolia_Neolithic + Andronovo_Eneolithic + Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic @ 2.650170
    13 Armenia_MBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_IronAge + Starcevo_EN @ 2.691152
    14 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + LBK_EN + Scythian_IA @ 2.728761
    15 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_EN + Hungary_IronAge @ 2.765091
    16 Andronovo_Eneolithic + Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Starcevo_EN @ 2.789754
    17 Andronovo_Eneolithic + Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + LBK_EN @ 2.797663
    18 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Europe_EN + Scythian_IA @ 2.867217
    19 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Spain_EN @ 2.887358
    20 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 2.917938

    Done.


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 28.21
    2 EHG 26.71
    3 WHG 21.86
    4 Basal 11.66
    5 Iran-Mesolithic 4.50
    6 Siberian 3.07
    7 SEA 2.21
    8 ASI 1.32

    (735) End of data. popN=151

    Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
    11 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Hungary_IronAge @ 12.243613
    2 Bell_Beaker @ 20.386557
    3 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 20.624376
    4 Irish_BA @ 20.689873
    5 Unetice_MBA @ 20.713945
    6 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 20.848309
    7 Alberstedt_LN @ 20.934610
    8 Armenia_LBA @ 20.968704
    9 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 21.137346
    10 British_Celtic @ 21.197598
    11 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 21.978926
    12 Nordic_MN_B @ 22.127230
    13 Nordic_LN @ 22.569109
    14 Halberstadt_LBA @ 23.093437
    15 British_IronAge @ 23.589968
    16 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 23.768036
    17 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 24.305506
    18 Unetice_EBA @ 24.528601
    19 Nordic_IA @ 24.607540
    20 British_AngloSaxon @ 25.101282

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenia_Chalcolithic +50% Nordic_BA @ 5.800994


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Hungary_IronAge +25% Iran_Chalcolithic +25% Swedish_LN @ 3.212435


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
    1 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 1.620615
    2 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_EN + Scythian_IA @ 1.648287
    3 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + LBK_EN + Scythian_IA @ 1.725985
    4 Greek_Neolithic + Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 1.726073
    5 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Scythian_IA @ 2.148100
    6 Armenia_Chalcolithic + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Scythian_IA @ 2.148100
    7 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Starcevo_EN @ 2.401557
    8 Anatolia_Neolithic + Armenia_LBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA @ 2.535899
    9 Armenia_LBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Hungary_IronAge @ 2.604771
    10 Armenia_LBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_IronAge + GermanStuttgart_LBK @ 2.604771
    11 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_EN + Scythian_IA @ 2.740137
    12 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_CA + Hungary_IronAge @ 2.753520
    13 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.795425
    14 GermanStuttgart_LBK + Iran_Chalcolithic + Mezhovskaya_LBA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.795425
    15 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Scythian_IA + Spain_EN @ 2.806006
    16 Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Europe_EN + Scythian_IA @ 2.873098
    17 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + Hungary_CA + Scythian_IA @ 2.924731
    18 Greek_Neolithic + Andronovo_Eneolithic + Armenia_MLBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic @ 2.925987
    19 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Scythian_IA @ 2.942380
    20 Armenia_EBA + Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Scythian_IA @ 2.942380

    Done.

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