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    Default The human condition rests on 4 legs

    -Gender
    -Family
    -Nation
    -Religion

    Do you agree?

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    Meddling with any of those pillars results in?

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    5 legs - Memes.
    Yesterday, today's virtue was vice; Today, yesterday's vice is virtue.

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    Id take religion out of it, I dont think its necessary.

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    - Gender
    - Family
    - Cultural Values
    - Selection for genetic traits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Id take religion out of it, I dont think its necessary.
    Religion/mythology is an expression of cultural values in my system. The arts in general falls under cultural values. Art is a cultural expression, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Religion/mythology is an expression of cultural values in my system. The arts in general falls under cultural values. Art is a cultural expression, of course.
    Yes, cultural values are important, and I think that people need a way of organizing, religion has served this purpose for thousands of years. But with modern science there is no need for spiritual belief anymore.

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    Yes I agree.

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    What do we mean by the human condition? If we are speaking of the usual philosophical sense, the human condition rests on the fact that we are beings in a world of flux and change and, ultimately, death. Whatever is good doesn't remain permanently. Women may enjoy being beautiful, but sooner or later that beauty withers away; men may enjoy being strong, but sooner or later that strength saps away. There exists evil, suffering and injustice, and this world can't answer it or do away with it. Whatever we do in this world, no matter how noble and great, will eventually be for naught. Our memory will die just as we did before it. It is possible that whatever good deeds we did will be attributed to someone else. It is possible that we will have evils falsely attributed to us. It is possible, and very common, that we will be reviled and persecuted despite our goodness. The rule is that it gains oneself more to do evil than good. But yet, due to our weakness, we participate fully in this world and become of it, even though there are hints of permanence. We convince ourselves that this is it and that we should simply accept it and suffer it. Or, as in most cases, we don't even recognize it, being too accustomed to the world.

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    Humans are the most pathetic existences in the universe. The only fact i know is that humans must be victims of some super clever mean twisted trick to be this pathetically fucked up. I would switch places with any other form of life rather than being a pathetic fucking human being.

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