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    Default Which North African country is most, and least, Arabized?

    In terms of genetics.

    My guess is it decreases as you move west, such that it is: Egypt > Libya > Tunisia > Algeria > Morocco in that order.

    But I may be wrong.

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    First of all, what's an Arab? (in terms of genetics)

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    .. First of all Egypt considered the mother of the (mostarba Arabs) or the new generation of Arabs beginning from the Birth of Ismael to the Egyptian Hagar and Iraqi Ibrahim... Egypt is considered the protector of gulf countries

    Yet with the immigration waves from Greece , Italy , balkan and Mongolia add to that the current black race located in Nubia .. Egypt is considered a multi ethnic country (the most in middle east between all countries).

    if we compare Egypt to the other north africans countries about the number of Arabs , Egypt by far has the most arabs due to our population which is more than 100 million citizen.

    I'd say the most Arabized is Egypt then comes Morocco then Algeria then Tunisia then Libya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    In terms of genetics.

    My guess is it decreases as you move west, such that it is: Egypt > Libya > Tunisia > Algeria > Morocco in that order.

    But I may be wrong.
    You may be right, in terms of genetics but also of Berber culture. And it would be rather logical, because of all the Maghrebi countries, from a geographical point of view, Morocco is the most distant to Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    You may be right, in terms of genetics but also of Berber culture. And it would be rather logical, because of all the Maghrebi countries, from a geographical point of view, Morocco is the most distant to Arabia.
    Morocco comes second after Egypt , a lot of Arab tribes plus the monarchy system there is a political alliance between them and gulf countries + Jordon.

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    Which N. African country has the best looking women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Which N. African country has the best looking women?
    morrocan girls are very hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    In terms of genetics.

    My guess is it decreases as you move west, such that it is: Egypt > Libya > Tunisia > Algeria > Morocco in that order.

    But I may be wrong.
    No you're absolutely right.

    Egypt is first because of its historic proximity genetically/geographically/culturally with Arabs. They actually are a lot closer to Middle Easterns in most aspects than to NorthWest Africans.

    About Greater Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya), it's important to understand that the Arabs who settled there were a tiny elite settled in big cities who mixed eventually with the local population but in fact their number was so low that demographically, they had no impact on the population.
    The Arabization of NorthWest Africa has been made culturally, especially religiously through madrasa/zaouia (religious schools) where Arabic was learned to understand the Qu'ran.
    This Arabization has been very long (centuries) and Amazigh culture has been protected during many years with the reigns of many Berber kindoms in NorthWest Africa (Almoravids, Almohads, Zayannids etc) but it has been accelerated these late centuries with dynasties/kindgoms who favorized Arabic and had "orientated pro-Arabic" politics.
    1/2 centuries ago, there were a lot more Berber speakers.

    I hesitate between Tunisia and Libya in second
    Libya because Arabs who settled there were a bit more numerous than in Western Maghreb but not enough to Arabize them demographically. Nonethless, the more you go to the east in North Africa, the more the EastMed component is high.
    They remain Berbers genetically and culturally and they have many Berberophones (600 000 people speak Tamazight for a population of +6million inhabitants which is actually significifant) .
    Tunisia doesn't have a lot of Berber speakers (Amazigh culture is completely abandoned in this country), they are disappearing (0,5% of the population) but paradoxically, they are closer to Algerians/Moroccans than Libyans are to them and Algeria/Morocco are the most preserved Berber countries.

    In third, I would say Algeria.
    30% of the population speak Tamazight and we are still very connected to Amazigh culture but our country is more opened geographically than Morocco. Plus, the colonization era + Boumediene (hard core pan Arabist) accelerated Arabization these late centuries.

    The least Arabized : Morocco, half of the population speak Tamazight, extremely Amazigh connected people, Atlas moutains protected them during many centuries from foreign invasions + they have of one of the most isolated tribes genetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Which N. African country has the best looking women?
    Maghrebians of course

    Moroccans : nice housewives but sadly associated with prostitution and witchcraft
    Algerians : funny but bad tempered/fucked up in the head
    Tunisians : very feminine women but extremely authoritarians with men, they are terminators

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsSPF View Post
    No you're absolutely right.

    Egypt is first because of its historic proximity genetically/geographically/culturally with Arabs. They actually are a lot closer to Middle Easterns in most aspects than to NorthWest Africans.

    About Greater Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya), it's important to understand that the Arabs who settled there were a tiny elite settled in big cities who mixed eventually with the local population but in fact their number was so low that demographically, they had no impact on the population.
    The Arabization of NorthWest Africa has been made culturally, especially religiously through madrasa/zaouia (religious schools) where Arabic was learned to understand the Qu'ran.
    This Arabization has been very long (centuries) and Amazigh culture has been protected during many years with the reigns of many Berber kindoms in NorthWest Africa (Almoravids, Almohads, Zayannids etc) but it has been accelerated these late centuries with dynasties/kindgoms who favorized Arabic and had "orientated pro-Arabic" politics.
    1/2 centuries ago, there were a lot more Berber speakers.

    I hesitate between Tunisia and Libya in second
    Libya because Arabs who settled there were a bit more numerous than in Western Maghreb but not enough to Arabize them demographically. Nonethless, the more you go to the east in North Africa, the more the EastMed component is high.
    They remain Berbers genetically and culturally and they have many Berberophones (600 000 people speak Tamazight for a population of +6million inhabitants which is actually significifant) .
    Tunisia doesn't have a lot of Berber speakers (Amazigh culture is completely abandoned in this country), they are disappearing (0,5% of the population) but paradoxically, they are closer to Algerians/Moroccans than Libyans are to them and Algeria/Morocco are the most preserved Berber countries.

    In third, I would say Algeria.
    30% of the population speak Tamazight and we are still very connected to Amazigh culture but our country is more opened geographically than Morocco. Plus, the colonization era + Boumediene (hard core pan Arabist) accelerated Arabization these late centuries.

    The least Arabized : Morocco, half of the population speak Tamazight, extremely Amazigh connected people, Atlas moutains protected them during many centuries from foreign invasions + they have of one of the most isolated tribes genetically.
    no , wait moment.

    Libyans are not part of great maghreb .. it's only morocco,algeria,tunisia and maybe mauritinia.

    Libyans are independent amazigh who basically connected to egypt more than other maghreb areas but they remain amazigh... during the Era of Pharaoh pesmatik who brought many of them to be in his Army and from them there was one called Sheshnak who ruled Egypt.

    you have to put the political sense in your choices .. Morocco is the most arabized in maghreb .. Muhammed the sixth formed alliance with Gulf countries and the arab culture once more increasing in Morocco (they formed the alliance because they both i mean gulf countries and morocco see Algeria as an enemy due to the previous war between morocco and algeria and the strong relations between Algeria and Iran).

    Tunisians they are a mix between berbers , med and kinda some percentage of arabs from bani halal tribe and so on.

    Libyans by are the least Arabized.

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