Which North African country is most, and least, Arabized?

[ÁGUIA]

French also have a poor knowledge of Maghrebians: they just call everyone "Arab", and unlike the Portuguese, there's no excuse for our ignorance: Algeria was formerly a French "départment" and Morocco and Tunisia two protectorates.

I know Melki, plus a very violent decolonization that left open wounds till today. But it is like I told sometimes even them call themselves arabs.

I can tell you that "Berber" was the moroccan bar from a near by town, where my friend used to work. Did not know what it meant. The thing is we have 500 years of mutual history with them (at least southern Portugal) but with Reconquista, Inquisition mostly was lost, history made us enemies. In a very simplistic way, The Al Andalus sadly is almost a paragraph lost in a history book for many. Sometimes the fado singers are the ones who make some connection with them, I think in Algarve there are some kind of Moorish revival but mostly to attract turists. Now they are from a completely different world from us but once we share so much. It's interesting that particularly in France both North Africans and Portuguese can still sense some cultural similarities between the both.

It was actually thanks to this forum, namely talking to a member (which I will be forever grateful), that I discover this new world, super interesting, vibrating. From traditions, custumes, music, arquitecture, ways of being in life etc. I really enjoy and appreciate it.

I saw this amazing documentary about Algeria filmed by Yahn Arthus-Beltran and wow I was mesmerized I surely recommend it. And definitely wanna go there at some given point.

The thing is we spend too much time looking at our own navel, instead of looking around. Sometimes even a glimpse is worthwhile.

[Melki]

I know Melki, plus a very violent decolonization that left open wounds till today. But it is like I told sometimes even them call themselves arabs.

I can tell you that "Berber" was the moroccan bar from a near by town, where my friend used to work. Did not know what it meant. The thing is we have 500 years of mutual history with them (at least southern Portugal) but with Reconquista, Inquisition mostly was lost, history made us enemies. In a very simplistic way, The Al Andalus sadly is almost a paragraph lost in a history book for many. Sometimes the fado singers are the ones who make some connection with them, I think in Algarve there are some kind of Moorish revival but mostly to attract turists. Now they are from a completely different world from us but once we share so much. It's interesting that particularly in France both North Africans and Portuguese can still sense some cultural similarities between the both.

It was actually thanks to this forum, namely talking to a member (which I will be forever grateful), that I discover this new world, super interesting, vibrating. From traditions, custumes, music, arquitecture, ways of being in life etc. I really enjoy and appreciate it.

I saw this amazing documentary about Algeria filmed by Yahn Arthus-Beltran and wow I was mesmerized I surely recommend it. And definitely wanna go there at some given point.

The thing is we spend too much time looking at our own navel, instead of looking around. Sometimes even a glimpse is worthwhile.

There's also a Berber revival on the Canary Islands. It's always been common for Canarian women to bear Guanche first names: Xiomara, Omayra, Yanini for example. Independists often raise the Canarian flag with the "ⵣ" symbol in the middle. But that's all, the Amazigh culture and traditions got lost a long time ago. Many Canarian immigrants came back from Cuba and Venezuela, and Latin American culture is now prevalent.

There's something I don't understand with Tuareg nomadism in the Sahara desert: it can't be very old, since there were no camels in North Africa before Roman times. Dromedaries, also called Arabian camels, are well-adapted to life in the hot desert. Without them, no Human can survive. They were imported from Arabia to Sudan, Nubia, Egypt and Maghreb, over the Horn of Africa.
My question is: where did Tuaregs originate from, and why did they adopt a nomadic lifestyle like the Bedouins in Arabia?

[Numidia]

Independists often raise the Canarian flag with the "ⵣ" symbol in the middle.

I didn't know that there is a revival of amazigh identity in canaries islands I think they lost it another example of spanish contributions to humanity after south america

There's something I don't understand with Tuareg nomadism in the Sahara desert: it can't be very old, since there were no camels in North Africa before Roman times. Dromedaries, also called Arabian camels, are well-adapted to life in the hot desert. Without them, no Human can survive. They were imported from Arabia to Sudan, Nubia, Egypt and Maghreb, over the Horn of Africa.
My question is: where did Tuaregs originate from, and why did they adopt a nomadic lifestyle like the Bedouins in Arabia?

Tuaregs are a recent group in north africa (around 2000-2500) there are a mix of pure indigenous and east africans (beja)

[Kazbolat]

Most Arabized: Egypt
Least Arabized: Greece

[Wadaad]

I didn't know that there is a revival of amazigh identity in canaries islands I think they lost it another example of spanish contributions to humanity after south america




Tuaregs are a recent group in north africa (around 2000-2500) there are a mix of pure indigenous and east africans (beja)

I always wondered why Tuareg culture and music sounded so similar to Horner

[Ryujin]

I don't know about genetics. But culturally imho; the least Arabized is Tunisia. It's just my impression; never been there.

[Egyptian]

Most Arabized: Egypt
Least Arabized: Greece

LOL

[Egyptian]

Gulf arabians are simply egyptians with australoid and west asian admixture

That's true , they also began to wear the (shemagh) on the Egyptian style (cobra style) reflecting their egyptian ancestry

[Wadaad]

Most Arabized: Egypt
Least Arabized: Greece

you know the Maltese are also North Africans?

[Melki]

I always wondered why Tuareg culture and music sounded so similar to Horner

Probably imported from Somaliland to Ténéré, Air, Hoggar, and all other territories the Tuaregs populated...with the first camels.