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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    It's not only pigmentational, but also by metrics and soft body part morphology he looks tenfold more SSA than OP.
    Fallacies of "muh little autozomal kalkulator" people just keep piling up.
    So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

    Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.
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    The autosomal results change A LOT whether they use 10AIMs or 1.000AIMs. Different Genetic tests are not comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominicanese View Post
    Can you believe this guy is more Euro than me?

    im 60% Euro, 30% African (3% N.African), 9% Native, 1% West Asian


    this guy right here Neguinho da Beija-Flor is 67.1% Euro, 31.5% African, 1.4% Native




    Ive read this article about his dna test and i dont think is real, dont trust much in brazilian media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by physical-anthro View Post
    So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

    Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.
    If a "gene" doesn't contribute to anything functional, then it doesn't make you "closer" to a population, period. Those "aDNA clusterings" are completely different to phenotypes far too often, it couldn't be that those genes every single time stand for "internal enzymes" or other supposed abstract and still non-defined traits. If your whole body is of different shape and functions different to that of someone else's, no amount of "muh gedmach kalkulator" will make you close to him.

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    This brazilian geneticist, Sergio Pena, is a joke. Don't believe in his results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    If a "gene" doesn't contribute to anything functional, then it doesn't make you "closer" to a population, period. Those "aDNA clusterings" are completely different to phenotypes far too often, it couldn't be that those genes every single time stand for "internal enzymes" or other supposed abstract and still non-defined traits. If your whole body is of different shape and functions different to that of someone else's, no amount of "muh gedmach kalkulator" will make you close to him.
    You like it or not but whole gemdatch calcs (and FTDNA or 23&ME tools) cluster you according to whole 22 chromosomes, not only to your "pheno" EDAR or OCA2 SNP's or sth like that.

    BTW this is Litvin thread wit PCA based on "pheno" SNP's http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...phenotype-SNPs

    I suppose you did the test and you are not very happy from the results (too many East-Med?) so you dismiss now it completely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by physical-anthro View Post
    You like it or not but whole gemdatch calcs (and FTDNA or 23&ME tools) cluster you according to whole 22 chromosomes, not only to your "pheno" EDAR or OCA2 SNP's or sth like that.

    BTW this is Litvin thread wit PCA based on "pheno" SNP's http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...phenotype-SNPs

    I suppose you did the test and you are not very happy from the results (too many East-Med?) so you dismiss now it completely...
    Apparently a lot of quite non-functional genes enter those calculations. My point is, if you don't look and your body doesn't function identically to certain population, then you are not related to it, no matter what. 99% of mammals are classed using those criteria. If those calculators and anthropology don't match (like they often don't), I will rather pick something having an actual functional role rather than inaccurate, abstract and non-functional fuckery.
    Phenotype SNP PCA Litvin posted has no touch with reality, I think you will agree.
    I dismiss a big part of this whole thing for another reason. I have never tested for autosomal. There is possibility I'll do it in future just for fun. Neither do I believe results are accurate enough nor can I wait that long for results, though.
    Still, better off than all those "LOOK HOW NORTHERN I CLUSTER, I ARE KANGZ" autistic genotards I'm getting sick of. I suppose they need a mechanism to cope with their inherent inferiority.

    Edit: Just to mention few fallacies I often like mentioning: how do you explain that, by MDLP calculator, we are closer to Romanians, southern Germans, and Gagauz, than to Bosnians (with whom we are undoubtedly closer in every regard)? Or that we cluster closer to NW Europeans than Albanians?
    Also, how come that on some calculators Spaniards cluster closer to Norwegians than to southern Italians, as Sikeliot pointed out?

    Those are just some of many, many total fantasies that resulted from those supposed "autosomal analyses".
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    The guy is great example of all stupidity of autosomal calculators.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001

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    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by physical-anthro View Post
    So accidentally he can had generally more "african" SNP's (responsible for pheno) than Dominicanese. But Dominicanese "African" part doesn't contain only SNP responsible for facial traits and pigmentation, it's not so easy. It could be for everything, like some internal traits or enzymes for example.

    Second possibility test of "African guy" was made few years ago and it's not very legit. And he indeed had more African than Euro.
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