Post your GEDMATCH Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer results

[Lucas]

They are both outdated, this one even more so as it was before the release of the genomes from CHG, NAF, Villabruna, etc.. even Iran_N. It's not entirely wrong but things are not what they are called here.

There s no ANE in the farmer, if anything some of your ANE is hiding in the Baltic HG.

Ok, what calc do you suggest instead of? For example in MDLP K11 Modern I have

1 WHG 41.24
2 Neolithic 27.04
3 EHG 25.84

So WHg + EHG is again about 67%, so nearly the same amount of summarized HG ancestry as in ANE K7 and Eu Hunter vs Farmer.

In Puntdnal K12 Ancient European HG 45,78% + Caucasus HG 19,05 = about 65% HG.

In Eurasia K10 CHG I have

1 WHG 43.74
2 CHG 19.37
3 EHG 15.14
4 Anatolian_Farmers 14.74
5 SW_Asian 4.59

So again WHG + CHG = 63%. With EHG it is even 78%....

[Petalpusher]

Ok, what calc do you suggest instead of? For example in MDLP K11 Modern I have

1 WHG 41.24
2 Neolithic 27.04
3 EHG 25.84

So WHg + EHG is again about 67%, so nearly the same amount of summarized HG ancestry as in ANE K7 and Eu Hunter vs Farmer.

So then you cannot compare to your K7 WHG if you add both.

In Puntdnal K12 Ancient European HG 45,78% + Caucasus HG 19,05 = about 65% HG.

In Eurasia K10 CHG I have

1 WHG 43.74
2 CHG 19.37
3 EHG 15.14
4 Anatolian_Farmers 14.74
5 SW_Asian 4.59

So again WHG + CHG = 63%. With EHG it is even 78%....

CHG has little to do with WHG, it's the equivalent of Iran neolithic + a bit of EHG. It's not because something has an "HG" name it is similar to the typical mesolithic Euro. Bantu HG, Oceanian HG, etc... everything was hunting at some point.

[Lek]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 20.06
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 32.13
Middle Eastern Herder 9.82
East Asian Farmer 0.72
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.07
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.34
Mediterranean Farmer 36.85
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Lucas]

Not really. How Caucasus Hunther Gatherer could be equivalent of something more recent like Iran Neolihitic? It's not logical. The opposite is true.

It's obvios that all calcs show the same thing, but some of them divide it. In older calcs what is WHG, was in newest divided to "Western" WHG and "eastern" CHG or EHG. In my example the general sume is always the same. How do you explain it? Too many cases.

[Petalpusher]

Not really. How Caucasus Hunther Gatherer could be equivalent of something more recent like Iran Neolihitic? It's not logical. The opposite is true.

It's obvios that all calcs show the same thing, but some of them divide it. In older calcs what is WHG, was in newest divided to "Western" WHG and "eastern" CHG or EHG. In my example the general sume is always the same. How do you explain it? Too many cases.

CHG is right next to Iran_M and Iran_N. It's pretty well known, you can't really be much further away from the mesolithic WHG's.



https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ohn43Grye...ic_aDNA_K7.png


CHG is the second most basal type of lineage with Iran_N, mixed with the ANE branch.

[Pahli]

I wonder if any member will score more Anatolian Farmer than me

Population
Anatolian Farmer 54.78
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 2.68
Middle Eastern Herder 15.99
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.32
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 10.67
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.59
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.13
Mediterranean Farmer 14.28
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.30
Bantu Farmer 0.25

[Lucas]

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Ok, what calc you recomend instead of?

[Not a Cop]

Ok, what calc you recomend instead of?

Each calc serves it's own function, what do you want to know?

[Daco Celtic]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 14.84
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 47.20
Middle Eastern Herder 1.31
East Asian Farmer 0.28
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.22
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.22
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.92
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Borealis]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 18.76
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 2.57
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 3.08
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.60
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 69.96
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.32
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.95
Mediterranean Farmer 2.59
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.18
Bantu Farmer -