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I posted all the heroes of 1821 , not even 1 was albanian. If we speak about arvanites they were Max 3-4% .Originally Posted by Laberia
No, we say what is written in your books about events happened in your country. Read here:
I went in the evening to ThouveneFs and Marshal- Randon's receptions. At the Hotel des Affaires Etrangeres i found in the most magnificent private rooms in the world about fifteen persons. Among them was General Kalergi, the author of the Greek Revolution of 1843, now Minister
from Greece. I asked if my acquaintance, R_____ was still Minister of Foreign Affairs ?
Kalergi. — Certainly not, or should not be here. We have had a change of Ministry.
We talked of Garibaldi.
If he establishes himself for a few weeks he will succeed, not by the aid of the Sicilians, who are a feeble race, but by that of Italians, Frenchmen, and perhaps Germans, who will flock to join so distinguished a partisan and so attractive a cause. In that case the Sicilian revolution will resemble ours. The real Greeks would never have driven out the Turks. They were too degraded even to wish for liberty. For many years after we had achieved our own independence they called the times of Turkish rule the good times. It was the Albanians and Macedonians and foreigners who fought the Turks.
Conversations with M. Thiers, M. Guizot, and other distinguished persons, during the Second Empire; (1878) VOL II p 304-305
And here is the page of the book:
Do you see?
This is the hotel, right?
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B...trang%C3%A8res
On the other hand if you read about Albanians of that time from the memoirs of Ottomans, Greeks and Europeans
or even Egyptians (we have an Egyptian here asked him) , EVERYONE WILL TELL YOU THAT ALBANIANS FOUGHT IN THE SIDE OF OTTOMANS.
So shut the fuck up, i dont know where you found this anti-Greek books full of bullshit ( i laughed so hard about Macedonians separated from other Greeks).
I will post again all the heroes to make you butthurt
Warriors of 1821 not arvanites :
Alexandros Ypsilantis - Pontian, Leader of "filiki etairia"
Grhgorios Dikaios (Papaflessas) - Messenian from Kalamata
Athanasios Grammatikos (Diakos) - Phthiot, Legendary Hero
Karaiskakis - Sarakatsanos, General and Hero from Karditsa
Ioannis Triantaphyllos (Makriyannis)- Phociot , General from Avoriti
Theodoros Kolokotronis - Arcadian, General from Roupaki
Ioannis Varvakis -Aegean, Hero from Psara
Konstantinos Kanaris - Aegean,Hero & Admiral from Psara
Antonis Katsantonis - Sarakatsanos, Turkalbanian slayer and Hero
Nikotsaras - Thessalian , Turkalbanian Slayer and Hero
Rigas Feraios - Thessalian from Feres
Palaion Patrwn Germanos - Arcadian from Dimitsana
Manto Maurogenous - Aegean From Mikonos island
Petros Mauromichalis - Maniot Hero
Ilias Mauromichalis - Maniot Hero
Odisseas Androutsos - Eptanisian, from Ithaca island
Nikolaos Apostolis - Aegean , from Psara
Konstantinos Nikodimos - Aegean, from Psara
Ioannis Milaitis - Aegean, from Psara
Dimitrios Papanikolis - Aegean,from Psara
Georgios Kalafatis - Aegean from Psara
Andreas Stamataras - Aegean Hero from Psara
Emmanouils Ksanthos - Aegean from Patmos
Andreas Metaxas - Eptanisian , from Cephalonia
Dionisios Eumorfopoulos - Eptanisian, from Ithaca
Christos Kapsalis - Aetolian
Stamatis Rozakis - Maniot
Limberakis Gerakaris - Maniot, one of the most feared Maniot Pirates
Anastasios Fratzeskakis - Maniot
Panagiotis Giatrakos - Maniot
Kuriakoulis - Maniot warrior
Dimitrios Petroulakis - Maniot
Spiriounaina - Maniot heroine
Ioannis Stratakos - Maniot
Theodoros Mesiklis - Maniot
Petros Kanakakis - Maniot
Dimitris Dragonakos - Maniot
Nikiforos Xatzidakis - Cretan Hero from Sfakia
Georgios Daskalakis - Cretan from Sfakia
Andreas Vourvaxis - Cretan from Sfakia
Vasilios Xalis - Cretan from Chania
Manolis Vernardos - Cretan
Nikolaos Malikoutis - Cretan from Iraklio
Georgios Tsouderos - Cretan from Rethumno
Nikolaos Kagiampis - Cretan from Iraklio
Georgis Kelaidis - Cretan from Sfakia
Theodoros Chourdos - Cretan from Sfakia
Anagnostis Kouskoumpes - Cretan from Sfakia
Anagnostis Manouselis - Cretan from Sfakia
Georgios Deligiannakis - Cretan from Sfakia
Markos Mpouzakis - Cretan Hero from Sfakia
Michalis Korakas - Cretan from Iraklio
Kallinikos Kritovoulidis - Cretan
Dimitrios Kourmoulis - Cretan from Messara
Michalis Kourmoulis - Cretan from Messara
Vasilis Diplas - Sarakatsanos
Georgios Zaxeilas - Sarakatsanos
Giorgios Xasiotis - Sarakatsanos
Georgios Tsogas - Sarakatsanos
Anastasios Karatasos - Sarakatsanos
Dimitrios Karatasos - Sarakatsanos
Grigoris Liakatas - Sarakatsanos
Kostas Lepeniotis - Sarakatsanos
Vasilis Diplas - Sarakatsanos
Dimitris Vlacopoulos - Sarakatsanos
Alexakis Vlacopoulos - Sarakatsanos
Panagiotis Krevvatas - Spartan from Skala
Emmanouil Ksanthos - Aegean from Patmos
Konstantinos Laxanas - Aegean from Samos
Likourgos Logothetis _ Aegean from Samos
Antonios Mpournias - Aegean from Chios
Alexandros Maurokordatos - Constantinopolite
Dimitrios Tsakris - Constantinopolite
Theodoros Negris - Constantinopolite
Ikesios Latris - Smurniot
Dimitrios Meletopoulos - Pelloponisian from Aigio
Athanasios Ksodilos - Pelopponisian from Gortilos
Konstantinos Oikonomos - Thessalian
Giannis Stathas - Aitolian from Valtos
Giannakis Raggos - Aitolian from Valtos
Nikolaos Stornaris - Aitolian
Georgakis Olumpios - Macedonian from Livadi Olympou
Ioannis Farmakis - Macedonian from Eordaia
Xristoforos Peraivos - Macedonian from Olumpus
Anasatsios Poluzoidis - Macedonian from Meleniko
Aggelis Gatsos - Macedonian from Veroia
Zafeirakis Theodosiou - Macedonian from Naousa
Emmanouil Papas - Macedonian from Serres
Georgios Lassanis - Macedonian from Kozani
Kasomoulis Family - Macedonians from Siatista
Theofilaktos Thiseus - Cypriot
Arvanites :
Georgios Kountouriotis - Arvanite from Ydra
The traitor who imprisoned Kolokotronis and started
the civil war
Botsaris - Arvanito-Vlach from Suli
Bubulina - Arvanite from Ydra
Andreas Miaoulis - Arvanite from Ydra
Plapoutas - Arvanite
Albanians fought with Greeks :
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Hmmm, noone 0%
they were 100% in the side of Ottomans
ALBANIANS IN THE SIDE OF OTTOMANS AGAINST GREECE :
Ibrahim Pasha, known schizophrenic who tried unsuccessfully with French staff officers to extinguish the revolution, the son of the Viceroy of Egypt Mohammed Ali was an Albanian bey.
Omer Pasha Vryoni, General of Tepelenli Ali Pasha, Pasha in various cities of Epirus, marched during the years 1821-22 led thousands of Greeks against rebels.
Moustai Shkodra Pasha (Mustafa), campaigned in 1823 with 16000 Albanians . His army was specific for mountain war and began fighting with many hopes to cut Marcos Botsaris but they humilated from the Greeks
Muhammad Ali Pasha ,was an Ottoman Albanian commander in the Ottoman army, who rose to the rank of Pasha, and became Wali, and self-declared Khedive of Egypt and Sudan with the Ottomans' temporary approval.
Ismail Pasha Pliassa, Albanian pasha who campaigned several times in the rebellious Greeks (up to Fisherman in 1824).
Ahmet Pasha Vrioni, marched to the principles of the revolution against the Greeks.
Isouf Perkoftsali Pasha, an Albanian pasha who campaigned several times in the rebellious Greeks.
Mahmud Dramali Pasha , was an Ottoman statesman and military leader and he came from a distinguished family of Albanian origin
Kara Mustafa Pasha , Albanian Ottoman military leader and grand vizier who was a central character in the Ottoman Empire's last attempts at expansion into both Central and Eastern Europe.
Mousta-bei, General of Kioutachi (Mehmet Resit Pasha, Rumeli Walesa) He fought against Greeks in Mesolongi, he was killed in Arachova from Karaiskakis in 1826 and his head nailed to the stake with the along with Kechagiampei Kioutachi. They were saying for him that he was "the biggest Otzak of Albania and the soul of Kioutachi and Albanians. Along with him Karaiskakis killed in Delphi another 1300 elite Albanians "the flower of Albania", only 100 survived the ambush of Greeks. The Albanians then mourned his death with songs:
"From Athens to Alamana there are many Captains.
There are many captains,but they killed Mousta-mbei.
Who Killed the Moustambei who was from our blood a star??
Karaiskakis killed him with the long mustache...
".. The frog from Levadia killed the lion of Albania
Karefil Bey, brother of musician-Bey and he was killed in Arachova
Brother Banuzi Sevliani: killed with the other albanians in Arachova.
Taxir Abazi- general of Ali Pasha Tepelenli
Melek Pasha Geka, acted in Lamia in 1821.
Finely Fezon Bey, leader of the Ghegs horsemen of Vrioni in Alamana and tie in 1821.
Mustafa Bey Kafezezi, leader of the horsemen Chams Vrioni in Alamana and tie in 1821.
Silichtar Boda, a significant Albanian general of the Turks throughout the revolution.
Ago Muchurdari, Albanian general of the Turks fought in the battle of Peta in 1821.
Ayo Basiari- fighter of Omer Brioni, Killed from Suliotes
Nurka Servani, albanian derven-aga , killed in Trikeri Magnesia in 1827.
Tachir Papulia , albanian derven-aga in Kravaron and Apokourou 1821.
Mustafa Bey, Kechagia-bey (chief of staff Hursit Pasha), leader of the besieged Turks and Albanians in Tripolitsa in 1821
Ali Bey, Moustafabei brother was killed at the Battle of Granicus in 1821, outside Tripolitsa
Ismail bey Vliori, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Veli Bey Giatzi, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Tzane Martolatzi, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Mustafa Martini Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Aslan Ntemtzi, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Hassan Bilusi, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Banouz Sevrani, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Schultz Kortsa son, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Kechriman bey Gatzea Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Zavaliani going, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Liuli Tzapari, Albanian bimpasi (captains) of Kioutachi.
Hasan Pasha Geka, killed in night raid at the camp Kioutachi 1825.
Elmaz mezzo, acted in 1821 in Epirus.
Teleha-bei - leader of Gegs horsemens of Omer brioni
Silihtar Boda - albanian general of ottomans
Banuz Mustafa Martini - albanian ottoman chief
Bekir Aga Tzogaduro,albanian commander of Preveza in 1821, had other interests.
Schultz Kortza, albanian nterven-aga Trikala in 1822 and was active elsewhere.
Suleiman metic, albanian chieftain acted in Epirus in 1821.
Gap bey Vrioni, albanian chieftain acted in Epirus in 1821.
Mourto Tzalio, albanian chieftain acted in Epirus in 1821.
Islam bey Kokka, albanian chieftain acted in Epirus in 1821.
Ismail bei, albanian chieftain
Hasan Bilusi, albanian chieftain
Mohammed Daliani, albanian chieftain from Konispoli, acted in Epirus in 1821.
Islam Pronio, albanian chieftain from Paramythia, acted in Epirus in 1821.
Balian Huso, albanian chieftain from Margariti, acted in Epirus in 1821.
Hassan Huso, albanian chieftain from Margariti, acted in Epirus in 1821.
Ismail Benny Konitza, albanian bey was active in the continent in 1821.
Xhaferi Frasaris Bey, head of Vanguard Ismail Pasha Pliassa fell to Kompoti of Arta in 1821.
Frasari , captured from Greeks for second time .
Ibrahim Premeti, attacked Kalarrytes of Epirus in 1821.
Hussein Bey, son of Mustafa Pasha of Delvino, Parga was commander in 1821.
Genet Chapare, Tsam chieftain acted in Parga in 1821.
Deli Hafez, commander Patratsikiou to1821.
Tzinko Chametzi, Albanian chieftain fought in the battle of Peta in 1821.
Vekout Gardiki, Albanian chieftain fought in Plaka of Epirus in 1821.
Tachir Mourtotzali, Albanian chieftain acted in 1821.
Tsegko-Bey, Albanian chieftain acted in Epirus in 1821.
Matus Latif Aga, the Turkish-Albanian chieftain acted Ipero 1821.
Maxout Sropouli, an Albanian officer Abtul Aboud Pasha of Thessaloniki attacked the inhabitants of Olympus in 1821.
Tachir Chapare, a chieftain of Vrioni attacked Souliotes in 1822.
Ibrahim Demo, chieftain of Vrioni attacked Souliotes in 1822.
Liulio Tzapari , albanian chieftrain
Ismail Pronio, chieftain of Vrioni attacked Souliotes in 1822.
ArC Benes, officer of Ismail Pasha Pliassa.
Hajji Ben officer of Ismail Pasha Pliassa.
Isuf Bey, an officer of Mahmud Pasha Dramali Akrata rescued in 1822.
Tamaz Bimpasi officer of Mahmud Pasha Dramali Akrata rescued in 1822.
Avdulach Bey, leader of Albanians to attack Etoliko in 1823 where he was wounded.
Pracho Prevista, leader of the Albanians in battle Ampliani to1824.
Tselio pizzeria, Albanian chieftain strengthened Perkoftsali Pasha at the battle of Ampliani to 1824.
Manet Luzati, Albanian chieftain Gostitsa besieged in 1824.
Chisels Tepeleni, Albanian chieftain Gostitsa besieged in 1824.
Hassan Chapare, Alvanotsam chieftain of the Lantern of Epirus acted in 1821.
Choto Pronio, Leader of Tsams, chieftain in 1821.
Aslanaki leader of the Albanian Moustafa-bei when he entered the besieged Tripolitsa
Ahmet bey Demo, from Filiates - Albanian mercenary in battle of Tripolitsa died with other 800 albanians during the siege
Lima Kogiatsa Bey, leader of Albanians in the siege of Tripoli in 1821
Veli Bey Kogiatsa, leader of Albanians in the siege of Tripoli in 1821
Kalio-bei Bono, the son of Mitsa Bono, leader of Albanians in the siege of Tripoli in 1821
Ibrahim Lalai, Peloponnesian albanian acted in Lala and Patras
Hanja Lalai, Peloponnesian albanian Lala acted in Patras
Xhaferi sparingly Lalai albanian acted in 1821.
Newt Vardunioti, Peloponnesian albanian acted at the siege of Tripolis.
Abdul Bey Arnautoglu, the influential Turkish Tripoli in 1821.
Arnautoglu Ibrahim, commander Kalavryta between the years 1820-1821.
Suleiman Arnautoglu, voivod of Kalamata in 1821.
Nefezi Karachuso, Lalai albanian died in 1821.
Moustafa Hajj, Lalai albanian died in 1821.
Beiko Kehagia, albanian negotiator Lala.
Koutsoraip Aga, Lalai albanian acted in 1821.
Muse-Bey Kiafa Zeza, albanian officer Abazi Pasha during his campaign in the East Central 1825 (probably already mentioned).
Chota-Bey T,Albanian officer of Abazi Pasha during his campaign in East Central in 1825.
Veli Agha- Albanian officer of Abazi Pasha during his campaign in East Central in 1825.
Mahmut Bey Kostouri, albanian officer of Abazi Pasha during his campaign in East Central in 1825.
Ibrahim Kostretzi, albanian officer of Abazi Pasha during his campaign in East Central in 1825.
Muhtar Bey-Kiaftisi, albanian officer of Kioutachi in Athens in 1827.
Isouf dibenzyl, Albanian commander Lidorikiou before the revolution, was mild and benevolent, but tortured and hung from the walls of the Acropolis of Athens in 1827 with 17 other albanians for retaliation twinge when besiegers 2 Greeks.
Mustafa Agha Sugkarini, General Gheg of Kioutachi during the siege of the Acropolis of Athens in 1827.
Magdari, leader of Albanians in Chios in 1828 was captured by the army of Favierou.
Mussa-Bey, leader of the Turkish-Albanian garrison capitulated Koroni in 1828.
Mustafa-Bey, leader of the Turkish-Albanian garrison capitulated Koroni in 1828.
Veli Bey, leader of the Turkish-Albanian garrison capitulated Koroni in 1828.
Mehmet Devoli, commander Salona 1828.
Orhan Kiafaxisi, leader of the Turkish-Albanian Korakovrysi Boeotia until 1828 when he was arrested.
Kior Ibrahim, commander delivered Nafpaktos in 1828.
Slice Tukofli, cosigned tradition Messolonghi in 1829.
Nouri Tzopi, cosigned tradition Messolonghi in 1829
Marge Tsuriguni, cosigned tradition Messolonghi in 1829
Ismail Bei Giaci , albanian chief
Tzelaledin Bey, commander of Ohrid, killed in Kefalovriso from Markos Botsaris 1823.
Ahmet Privista or Deprivistani - Greek Arvanite Kitsos Tzavelas arrested him and stamped him with foinika (the greek coat)
Ahmet Bei Demo - Killed from Greeks in tripolitsa with his 800 albanian warriors
Kehagia-bei - leader of ottomans in tripolitsa,killed from Kolokotronis
Nouredin aga Beloukmpasi, fought in Petra Boeotia.
Asla-bei Muchurdari 1500 Albanians fought the last battle in the race to Petra Boeotia. So the Albanians were present and consistent throughout the phases and the Greek Revolution. The fate of the Turkish-Albanian beys, aghas and chieftains when they went to claim their wages from Kioutachi
We must tell Egyptian to give the name of Albanians in the side of Egyptian army too to make the list bigger.
Albanians are the Turksperms in Europe
Laberia is fucking funny with this propaganda, their people were all the time in the side of Ottomans.
Albania liberated from Greeks and Serbs, they have a fake hero Kastriotis (half Greek half Serbian).
They have a stolen Flag from Byzantines (double headed eagle).
They also tryin to steal Ancient Greek Epirotan Heroes like Pyrrus.
No Greek that time converted to Islam and noone fought for Ottomans,
on the other hand Albanians even today are muslims and dicksuckers of the Turks.
SHAME ON THESE PEOPLE, SHAME ON THEIR PROPAGANDA AND THEIR FAKE COUNTRY
The fun continue, who liberated Albania ??
Lets take a look at the families ethnicity, here the fun take place :
Arianiti family Vlachs ,
Balsic family Serbs ,
Zaharia family Serbs ,
Muzaka family Vlachs ,
Spani family Greeks ,
Thopia family Venetians ,
Crnojevici family Serbs
Laberia go fuck yourself now , clown of Apricity
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