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    Default Hungarian Conquerors were a mixture of Goth and Hunnic tribes according to newest research

    Try to interpret this chart (based on 89 Hungarian Conquerors' samples),





    31% Eastern and Inner Asia
    6% likely Eastern and Inner Asia
    28% Scandinavian German
    10% likely Scandinavian German
    6% Caucasus
    6% Other Europeans
    2% Slavic

    "Genetic data imply Xiongnu origin of the Hungarian Conquerors, who were considerably admixed with Germans of Scandinavian origin, Neparaczky 2016" This is not a joke, this is serious
    Full research can be read, here (HU) http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...raczki_PhD.pdf

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    So Xiongnus=Huns and Huns+Later Goths=Hungarians? Then who were the people (called Magyars) who settled EtelKöz after Khazars and then modern Hungary in 9th-10th centuries?

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    This sounds so stupid. This mixture occurred probably before there were such a people such as goths or Huns. No one says the Finno-Urgians are a mixture of vikings and siberians, that's dumb.
    It also seems that the asian genes in the Hungarian pop. has been long bred out so it's all coolzies either way, but cool info anyway.

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    According to this research the Huns who invaded Europe in the 4th century migrated back to Eastern Europe. They mixed with the Goths and the Alans there heavily and this composite people led by Arpad migrated to present-day Hungary in the late 9th century. All Hungarian medieval chronicles stated that the Magyars had Hun ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakirbakir View Post
    According to this research the Huns who invaded Europe in the 4th century migrated back to Eastern Europe. There, they mixed with the Goths and the Alans heavily and this composite people led by Arpad migrated to present-day Hungary in the late 9th century. All Hungarian medieval chronicles stated that Magyars had Hun ancestry.
    But where the Huns not mostly European? Where do you get it from that the Huns were mostly Asiatic prior to mixing?

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    What exactly is Hunnic admixture?

    Anyway, its known that the Huns migrated back to around Ukraine, and split up into various tribes, Kutrigurs, Onogurs, Utrigurs.

    The Magyars were members of the Onogur confederation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    But where the Huns not mostly European? Where do you get it from that the Huns were mostly Asiatic prior to mixing?
    No they weren't, Where did you hear that?

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    The Huns absorbed many Gothic tribes, and Gothic became the Lingua Franca of the Hunnic empire.

    It's possible that the Goths and whatever the Huns were mixed together , and then the Magyars gained some of that Gothic-Hunnic admixture while being part of the Onogur allience.

    Then there are also the 3 Kabar tribes which were together with the Magyars.

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    Modern day Hungarians admixture, Hellenthal 2014


    According to the research Hellenthal's conclusion fits their results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakirbakir View Post
    Modern day Hungarians admixture, Hellenthal 2014


    According to the research Hellenthal's conclusion fits their results
    Is the study also indicates the level of relation between old and modern Hungarians?

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