Hungarian Conquerors were a mixture of Goth and Hunnic tribes according to newest research

[johen]

Excellent comment from a Finnish female user on Anthrogenica:

Originally Posted by Kristiina
The new paper on Magyar MtDNA (http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...raczki_PhD.pdf) contains interesting figures, but it strangely defines a long list of haplotypes Scandinavian-Germanic: U5a1a1h, U5a1i, U5a2a2a, U5a2b, U2e2a1a2, K1c1, H1b2, H1b1, H1c1, H2a1c, H15b, H5e1, H5+709, H5e1, H6a1a, H6a1b, T1a1, T2b, T2b4h, T2f1a1, J1c2, J1c3g, J1c7a, J1b1a1, J1b1a1-146, X2c1, X2f, I5a1, T1a10a, H2a1+146.

To my knowledge, ancient Hungarians did not ride to Scandinavia to marry local women

I think it was possible. Of course, they didn't go up there for the purpose of marriage.

Hunnic Empire:


I am not sure of whether the following fact is related, but nomad people really liked "white color," which was related with shamanism.

So valuable were children of this sort – and so likely, therefore, to be bought and sold along the way – that only a handful of Finnish exotics ever found their way to the Crimea; Jukka Korpela estimates that their numbers may have been as low as half a dozen a year. The prices they commanded, however, were simply colossal; one source notes that girls who could be purchased for as little as 5 altyn in Karelia could be resold for 6,666 altyn even before they reached the Khanate – a mark up in excess of 133,000 percent. The higher price, equivalent to 200 roubles or (in about 1600) 250 sheep, was also about five times the usual price for a Crimean slave. It is no surprise, in these circumstances, that slaves from the far north were highly sought-after for their colouring – nor that their special characteristics were scrupulously noted in the slave registers so carefully kept in the ports that lay at the heart of this commerce in human misery: “white skin, white hair.”

https://mikedashhistory.com/2015/01/...dieval-crimea/
Blonde cargoes: Finnish children in the slave markets of medieval Crimea

[Fakirbakir]

Excellent comment from a Finnish female user on Anthrogenica:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post215423

The Goths actually migrated from Scandinavia to Eastern Europe. I don't think that the geneticists worked with recent samples when compared the conqueror results with ancient populations. The Varangians (Vikings) came much much later to the territories of Eastern Europe. The researchers even emphasized that the "Scandinavian" origin cannot be originated from the "Varangians".

[oszkar07]

Try to interpret this chart (based on 89 Hungarian Conquerors' samples),





31% Eastern and Inner Asia
6% likely Eastern and Inner Asia
28% Scandinavian German
10% likely Scandinavian German
6% Caucasus
6% Other Europeans
2% Slavic

"Genetic data imply Xiongnu origin of the Hungarian Conquerors, who were considerably admixed with Germans of Scandinavian origin, Neparaczky 2016" This is not a joke, this is serious
Full research can be read, here (HU) http://doktori.bibl.u-szeged.hu/3794...raczki_PhD.pdf

Very interesting data, so is this based on samples of 9th - 10th century graves... in Hungary ?

I recal reading that at one stage the Hungarians possibly when they were around the Etelkoz found themselves surrounded by Khazar and Varangian
peoples. Could they possibly have mixed with Varangian's.

[Anglojew]

Three out of 10 tribes were Khazars.

[jingorex]

whats sad is that today in teh modern era that they are just a bunch of short, little, squat, cunts.

back in the day, when they were something to behold... Madjars!

[blondbeast]

The Huns did absorb some Gothic tribes but also hundreds of thousands of Goths, including women and children, fled the Huns across the Danube into the Roman Empire/Balkans which ultimately led to the fall of Rome later on due to the Romans mistreating the Goth "refugees", also giving way to the birth of the Visigoths and their trek to conquer the city of Rome and after Iberia.

[oszkar07]

Three out of 10 tribes were Khazars.

those 3 were from the Khazar tribe but those 3 usually reffered to as Kabar's.
I vaguely recall reading they disbanded from the Khazar's for some reason...this may have been related to when the Khazar's adopted Judaism as their main religion.

[oszkar07]

whats sad is that today in teh modern era that they are just a bunch of short, little, squat, cunts.
back in the day, when they were something to behold... Madjars!

If you look at the 2005 measurements in below link for Hungary the average height for Hungarian males was
5 foot 10, which is pretty comparable to much of central and western Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ight_worldwide
And then take a look at this other measurement list below and you see HUNGarians still have something to behold.
scroll down to the Green Zone average 6.5
http://brobible.com/life/article/ave...is-size-study/

[TheForeigner]

What race were the Ugric speakers who brought Hungarian language to Pannonia?

[zghiara]

The slavic is a little low,and german too high...they came through Ukraine and even if they came through western slavs slavic migration precedes magyar one.