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Probably Scythians. How they got to Portugal is a mystery though.Originally Posted by physical-anthro
The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpineoldschool anthropology
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Maybe Alans? they were in Iberia with Swebians and Vandals.
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- R1a-z93 started from Altai related with okunevo-afanasievo horse riding/chariot culture.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ogical-Complex
- It is strange that Johannes Krause's map seems like R1a spread in India from IVC
- looks like R2 people brought ANE culture so that the IVC is so similar to Mesoamerica civilization. Moreover, korean and japanese are so similar to dravidian language. I think it is also ANE's connection.
- Is there any IVC artefact looking like those people? see the big eyes. American Indian has stereotype Almond eyes.
Okunevo, original purebred of ANE Malta.
shu culture(2,000bc) in China
5,000bc Manchu
How about this Harappa artefact?
--> like Göbekli Tepe culture 9,000bc when R1b-v88 passed the region:
Göbekli Tepe Shamans and their Cosmic Symbols
Some researchers like Andrew Collins also mention the possible shamanism in Göbekli Tepe with regard to astronomy and cosmology. He approaches the subject in terms of pole star belief which we know from shamanism. Pole star is the creation point of all the universe, according to shamans. Today in Asia, Turkish, Mongolian and Tungus shamans still believe that the sky-god Tengri Ülgen ascends the throne on the pole star, Polaris.
In my opinion, Göbekli Tepe was not only the ritual center of shamans, but also the initiation center of pupil shamans. When Pillar-2 is examined closely, we clearly see bended legs of the crane. On this basis, Schmidt explains that the body of this bird may represent the human being who transforms into the crane form. Afterwards, Schmidt suggests that this phenomenon is related to the shamanism concept.
Power animals are known as the protector souls of the shaman. In the eyes of shamans, all animals are the elements of shamanic practice. The soul protects the shaman from diseases and malignancies. The shaman who gains that soul no longer cures the illnesses and prophesizes. Power animals are an “alter ego” of the shaman. Shamans imitate his or her power animal and coalesce with them during the ritual. Shamans ascend to the sky – and vice versa on land - with power animals, as they are fellow travelers.
Siberian shamans have power animals like the bear, wolf, rabbit and owl; Yakut shamans have mostly bull, eagle and bear. The forenamed animals are quite similar to the animals found carved on Göbekli Tepe pillars.
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Indian people are mixed with ANI and ASI. Davidski means that ASI people have creative genes, doesn't he? As far as I know, so many tamil people are now in silicon valley.Davidski said...
You'll be in distress when the ancient DNA from South Asia is published. Expect no R1a in Harappa but a lot of ASI
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These are speculations, but L of course should
be, also others, becasue this society was very
divergent. D, O, J, H should be there too.
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Btw, maybe you are not aware yet, but
Portugal had colonies in north west India.
It is the time for Canada to
start teach history in schools.
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Neither L, neither R2 is Dravidian per se.
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This is the M. Bison phenotype, a.k.a the Horsebowyer phenotype, a.k.a the Dictator phenotype. Be careful if you're walking around in big wide open grassfields on a sunny day, this guy will likely show up and stick a spear through you.
5,000bc Manchu
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_..._of_South_Asia
What about Haplogroup H? I thought they were most associated with Dravidians, Haplogroup O seems to be the highest among actual indigenous Indians.
So it is concluded the Indus Valley Civilization was all Haplogroup L and R2? Haplogroup R2 comes from the same root, Haplogroup R itself so how can it be that the lowest Castes/Dravidians who are highly admixed people since they are around 30-50% ANI (Ancestraal North Indian) ancestrally and a large number of their population has R2. The essential reason for this could very well be that the Indian Caucasoids who were non-Indo European speakers spread R2 aas the males mixed with the indigenous peoples of India there for bringing the Dravidian Race into existence which started the Indus Valley Civilization, the Caucasoids brought the Indigenous people Civlization. Look at the actual Indigenous primitives of India today, they are not developed at all, I think it is obvious that modern Dravidians are the result of Non-Indo European speaking Caucasoids breeding/mixing with the primitive indigenous population.
But is it R2a? R2A supposedly comes from central asia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R2 This is highly significant for Tamil Brahmins who look Caucasoid (most of them) and have very unique origins.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-or...Tamil-Brahmins
I believe there was a non-Indo European speaking population residing in India for a very long time since pre-historic times, these people effectively brought civilization to the primitive indigenous people and mixed with them a lott.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA) How was no Haplogroup H found? I used to think this Haaplogroup had non-Caucasoid indigenous Indian origins but it's ancestor comes from central asia and there are some subclades of this group that has a small presence in Europe so there is no way these could have been indigenous Indians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_LT Haplogroup L is also of Caucasoid origin but one must not consistently draw contrasts between Physical Anthropology and Genetics, in some cases that falls into being Pseudo Science.
Haplogroup C and O are the earliest people on the Indian Sub continent and are associated with the Aboriginal non-Caucasoid indigenous population who branched off from the Australoid race. The introduction of all these Y-DNA haplogroups who original have descendants in Cental Asia/Eurasia were the migrating Caucasoids who effectively mixed with these primitives and gave them Civilization.
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