Should Catholic nuns be forced to remove their headdress?

[crazyladybutterfly]

It seems to have been a common practise among many Europeans in the past. And Christianity does originally also promote for women to cover their hair.

I do not support niqab either so I am on board with that. Islam only encourages women to cover their hair not the face.

it was common for medieval women to cover their hair , not in the hijabi style though

[Queen B]

Since a lot of members here are strongly opposed to let Muslim women have the freedom to wear the hijab even though its their personal Choice, I Wonder if you are as steadfast in demanding that Catholic nuns should also remove their veil? Or are you hypocrites about it?

If they move to an Islamic country , yes, they should.
In their OWN country, why should they ?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

you're confusing the hijab with the niqab.

hijab is also a XX century creation.

[Incal]

Should doctors be forced to not cure people?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Wearing a hijab is a personal choice Muslim women make or not. It is not uncommon to see in families some wearing hijab and others not. Neither is is unheard of that some start to wear hijab then take it off or the opposite.

I see this thread if fueled with stereotypes from members With very little knowledge about Islam. While I won't deny that in some cases some may indeed feel pressure from families to wear it, thats far from the case with all. You have a very condescending view of Muslim women thinking they can't make decision on their own. You are wrong. Just like Catholic nuns make the decision to wear veil for modesty some Muslim women do that as well. Of course you probably refuse to believe that to be the case, but that is due to Your bias against Muslims and not rooted in reality.

Explain to me why this little prepubescent girls are dress like married women who has to protec their honor when they dont even have sexual felings at that age, the only explanation is that muslims see them as sexual objets.
Your argument its fals in the practice, because in islam apostasy and honnor crimes and regulated by the sharya, so theres no realy free will to leve the religion, only secular or moderate familyes give their daugther the option to chosse.

[Raikaswinþs]

Since a lot of members here are strongly opposed to let Muslim women have the freedom to wear the hijab even though its their personal Choice, I Wonder if you are as steadfast in demanding that Catholic nuns should also remove their veil? Or are you hypocrites about it?

if they cover their face, yes. No one should be above the law.

[Mens-Sarda]

Since a lot of members here are strongly opposed to let Muslim women have the freedom to wear the hijab even though its their personal Choice, I Wonder if you are as steadfast in demanding that Catholic nuns should also remove their veil? Or are you hypocrites about it?

The two things are not comparable, Catholic nuns are women who by their will dedicate their lives to religion and only to religion, they belong to religious orders with strict behaviour and dressing rules. Muslim women are just "normal" women subjugated and brainwashed by the chauvinist culture of their countries, where everything is controlled by men and their women count less than zero.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

The two things are not comparable, Catholic nuns are women who by their will dedicate their lives to religion and only to religion, they belong to religious orders with strict behaviour and dressing rules. Muslim women are just "normal" women subjugated and brainwashed by the chauvinist culture of their countries, where everything is controlled by men and their women count less than zero.

Catholic nuns are actually the exact oposite thing to muslim women, they are women who out of their free will deliberatly chosse not to have a family, many times this go against THEIR FAMILIES EXPECTATIONS.
Muslims women of REAL(not some secular middel class family) are expected to subjuget their will to the desieres of their PARENTS, to marry someone apointed by their parents, and after that to serve their husbands and children, those are their religious obligations as women. Islam its not the only culture that treat women like this, but preatty much shows you that freedom of thought, conscience and religion isnt allowed to women islam, at least in sharia law.

[KMack]

Nuns don't wear veils. Their faces are completely exposed. Anyway there are hardly any nuns anymore they would be a miniscule amount of the population. Most people never see nuns anymore. I don't even think most nuns even wear a habit anymore. Also nuns are members of a religious order it's not like all Catholic women wear a habit for instance.

It is a voluntary order and choice. Most Nuns I had as teachers did not dress that way. It is not government mandated like so many muslim countries, sharia law, that force women to dress a certain way. Weak try OP.

[Bari]

it was common for medieval women to cover their hair , not in the hijabi style though

It was still a headcover. Stop nitpicking. You love to argue, don't you? You are completely out of control.

If they move to an Islamic country , yes, they should.
In their OWN country, why should they ?

No, they should not. And my point was that since Europeans pride themselves about being all free choice and let people dress as they want, they must stand by those principles with Muslim women too. But since all of you refuse to Accept this reveals that the only reason you oppose it is because its Islamic.

Explain to me why this little prepubescent girls are dress like married women who has to protec their honor when they dont even have sexual felings at that age, the only explanation is that muslims see them as sexual objets.
Your argument its fals in the practice, because in islam apostasy and honnor crimes and regulated by the sharya, so theres no realy free will to leve the religion, only secular or moderate familyes give their daugther the option to chosse.

This is wrong. I would never ask my daughters to wear hijab. If they wanted to on their own will I would support it, if not I would still support them. This is supposed to be free choice according to the Quran. Not all Muslims do this, and those that do are acting against Islam. Just like the niqab this not part of Islam and an innovation made by Muslims. I have already explained this issue about Muslims not properly following Islam, and I am getting tired of repeating myself in this thread.

if they cover their face, yes. No one should be above the law.

I already explained it was about covering the hair like the nuns do. How many times must it be repeated until it starts to sink in?

The two things are not comparable, Catholic nuns are women who by their will dedicate their lives to religion and only to religion, they belong to religious orders with strict behaviour and dressing rules. Muslim women are just "normal" women subjugated and brainwashed by the chauvinist culture of their countries, where everything is controlled by men and their women count less than zero.

Of course they are. You are only making excuses because of Your own agenda against Islam. Women are higly regarded in Islam:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

It is a voluntary order and choice. Most Nuns I had as teachers did not dress that way. It is not government mandated like so many muslim countries, sharia law, that force women to dress a certain way. Weak try OP.

You clearly lack knowledge about the subject, so Please spare us Your ignorance.