Origins of European y-dna and mt-dna discussion thread

[Annie999]

If you would want to find more information/scholarly journals for your haplogroup you can use google scholar to find more information in deeper detail: https://scholar.google.com/

Nevertheless, they did Italian H* sample distributions in this study (Bodner et al., 2015) if you are interested :

Wow, the farthest back I can track my maternal line is Liguria, which according to that source exactly fits my halagroup "H1" Very interesting, thanks.

[jingorex]

G1 is quite easy comparing to them.

Autosomaly = racialy you are european.
Your ascendency is 99.8% european, but ancestry don;t.
Simply, your ancestors were buying european girls, thats all..

May i just say that; ive always appreciated your sage council

[Rethel]

Maybe i'm just getting hung up on the 'european' nomenclature and it doesnt mean what i think it means in relation to 'ancestry'.
When i hear ancestry, i think: 'where you come from' and the fact G1 is rare in europe just makes it more frustrating.

No, you get it quite right.
Simply TA-idiots here are confusly using some words in
wrong meaning on purpose, to sell their idiotic agenda.

[jingorex]

Gravettian cultures

THIS is why i keep coming back to the apricity! Always learning new stuff!

[Rethel]

THIS is why i keep coming back to the apricity! Always learning new stuff!

But probably this gravettian which he has on mind,
is from Caucasus, more like epigravettian, which I
would rather link with I-people, but who knows.

And of course it was not so old, as these fictional
hundrets and dozens of thousands of years which
Petal-chimp-fish-pusher is saying about.

[Peterski]

G1 is mysterious. Have any ancient samples of G1 been discovered so far?

[jingorex]

G origin:
15-35Kyr in Near East or Southern Asia

G was one of the "F-scale" haplogroups "injected" into the (R1b and I) populations of Old Europe during the Neolithic expansion of peoples from the Near East about 10Kyr.

What does "F-scale" haplogroup mean?

[Rethel]

G1 is mysterious. Have any ancient samples of G1 been discovered so far?

Wasn't it in neolithic Iran?

[Peterski]

Wasn't it in neolithic Iran?

Yeah I think you are right, I forgot about that.

[Peterski]

What does "F-scale" haplogroup mean?

Maybe it means that G is one of haplogroups descended from F?: