Spaniards plot south: Greeks/Albanians closer Tuscans, Bulgarians, and North Italians.

[Sikeliot]

In fact, Spaniards here are closer to southern Italians/Maltese/Jews (the "MENA shifted" Euros) than the Greeks and Albanians are, who are up near Bergamo, Tuscany, and Bulgaria.

You can clearly see here how Albanians/Greeks come up as South Italians + a sizable chunk of North Euro.

This is from a peer reviewed study.

[Lek]

Only real Albanians are the ones who score high east euro on ftdna. The rest are just Albanised. What have we become.... Ncncnc....

[Ibericus]

In fact, Spaniards here are closer to southern Italians/Maltese/Jews (the "MENA shifted" Euros) than the Greeks and Albanians are, who are up near Bergamo, Tuscany, and Bulgaria.

You can clearly see here how Albanians/Greeks come up as South Italians + a sizable chunk of North Euro.

This is from a peer reviewed study.

This is a MA1 (MAl'ta ) comparison , not a genome-wide PCA. In other words, shows from lowest to higer levels of ANE.

[Sikeliot]

This is a MA1 (MAl'ta ) comparison , not a genome-wide PCA. In other words, shows from lowest to higer levels of ANE.

No, it says "BedouinB, Han, Mbuti" so it is about MENA admixture not ANE.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Albanians solely from Albania or from other places aswell?

[Ibericus]

No, it says "BedouinB, Han, Mbuti" so it is about MENA admixture not ANE.

Those are the outgroups. The left-righgt axis is Han (East-Eurasian influence) and the Bottom-Up axis is ANE.

[Sikeliot]

Those are the outgroups. The left-righgt axis is Han (East-Eurasian influence) and the Bottom-Up axis is ANE.

But moving northeast to southwest on the chart is the axis along which MENA increases. Meaning no European has more than Malta, and none less than Saami here.

[Ibericus]

But moving northeast to southwest on the chart is the axis along which MENA increases. Meaning no European has more than Malta, and none less than Saami here.

No, MENA has nothing to do here. The plot is testing ANE vs ENA variation in Europeans.
Stuttgart is the least ANE (which makes sense)

[RN97]

lol, it's the one I showed Viejo, but it doesn't show what you claim Sikeliot, you misinterpreted it. My only point was to show that depending on what elements you use in a PCA map and how much you weigh them, you'll get different outcomes, that's why looking at calculator spreadsheets of genetic components is much more accurate to determine genetic affinity IMO.

[Bell Beaker]

We have in my village an important Romanian community, like 20 of them. But not gypsies, real Romanians and they are no different in pigmentation comparing with the local Portuguese population.

Most of these plots mean shit.