What language did the Normans speak when they conquered Sicily, Antioch and Britain?

[Melki]

My eyes are bleeding to read so many bullshit in some comments here... I wrote everything already in threads you find in my signature.

The current thread by the way is not about Scandinavian imput in Normandy of today but what language Normans were speaking when they conquered Sicily.



Normans generally have dark blond hair, they are lighter than average frenchman. Check the common phenotypes in Normandy to see it. I only agree that majority of Normans are not blond as you can see in my samples. BTW the presence of blonds and redhair is higher in Norman population than in France.

What about the temperament, what are you talking about ? -_- What are you calling latin temperament ? here you try to be familiar or touch people you don't know you go to fuck off. We're mistrustful, speaking our mind, cold and determinate. French moving in Normandy always reproach our coldness and indpendance, also our mistrusting in people.

When did we reject old norse from Norman language ? have you only one idea about what is Norman language today ? I don't think so.

"Nothing Scandinavian in Norman culture today" how do you know that ? what is your supposition ? And for your information for 20 years now we are in tourism cultural partenership with Scandinavia with the association and festival the Boréales. Every year this is more and more succesful. They even started to go for a political partenership now with Nordic countries and Normandy.

I lived in Normandy AND in Norway (true Norðmandí) and you can't compare the two places. Norwegian culture, temperament, mindset, food, folklore and traditions are close to Germany, whilst Normandy is French as fuck (you walk into a bistrot-PMU, you meet the same brown French drinking their red wine and lost in endless conversations about our mediocre football championship. You're right, there is nothing Latin in it, it's so boring French. Where are the beautiful Christmas markets? At least, this is 100% Germanic. Wearing a plastic viking helmet in a medieval festival is not enough.

[Ilma]

I lived in Normandy AND in Norway (true Norðmandí) and you can't compare the two places. Norwegian culture, temperament, mindset, food, folklore and traditions are close to Germany, whilst Normandy is French as fuck (you walk into a bistrot-PMU, you meet the same brown French drinking their red wine and lost in endless conversations about our mediocre football championship. You're right, there is nothing Latin in it, it's so boring French. Where are the beautiful Christmas markets? At least, this is 100% Germanic. Wearing a plastic viking helmet in a medieval festival is not enough.

You're the only one to compare Normandy to Norway, I didn't because Normandy is unique and has never been Norway but you just write bullshit assuming there is no norse nor germanic heritage in there while the only thing about here you know are those fucking PMU bars, how sad.

No one wears plastic viking helmet in there even not in med festivals, you dumbass traitor to your Norman ancestry.

Drown your sorrow into those PMU bars if you like, we do not hang out with the same persons and have nothing in common then.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Normans were more French than viking, the "barbarian" aristocracy over occupied old Europeans was something very common during the middle ages.

Thanks to William English language is the most Latin influenced among germanic languages

[Melki]

You're the only one to compare Normandy to Norway, I didn't because Normandy is unique and has never been Norway but you just write bullshit assuming there is no norse nor germanic heritage in there while the only thing about here you know are those fucking PMU bars, how sad.

No one wears plastic viking helmet in there even not in med festivals, you dumbass traitor to your Norman ancestry.

Drown your sorrow into those PMU bars if you like, we do not hang out with the same persons and have nothing in common then.

Where in Norman culture do you see any Norse legacy, apart from a few borrowed (and gallicized) words? And sorry to contradict you, but there's nothing more Norman than a little glass of calvados or a "trou normand" in a bistrot. And you know that.

[Ilma]

Where in Norman culture do you see any Norse legacy, apart from a few borrowed (and gallicized) words? And sorry to contradict you, but there's nothing more Norman than a little glass of calvados or a "trou normand" in a bistrot. And you know that.

Stop your off-topic then since the subject is about language and Normans from the Crusades, not about any heritage of today from vikings but language in old centuries.

Leave us alone with our Calvados and trou Normand, dont start to lead the discussion on cultural aspect (food and drink) here it is off-topic.

Maybe I should write and open a thread about viking heritage, or I dont know the fucking what, to answer those questions...

[Philip Latinowitz]

Exactly, the tall blonde French Norman is a myth. Like most of ethnic French, Normans generally have light brown hair. And their temperament is more "Latin" than "Germanic".

As for their language, they quickly rejected their old Norse and adopted the local langue d'oil dialect, the lords tried to adapt themselves to their new subjects.
There's nothing Scandinavian in today's Norman culture.

Are you sure average ethnic French has light brown hair ? Because from what I've seen, it is not the case. Average color is just brown, if you take entire country into account. Naturally, Normans must have to be lighter than average.

I lived in Normandy AND in Norway (true Norðmandí) and you can't compare the two places. Norwegian culture, temperament, mindset, food, folklore and traditions are close to Germany, whilst Normandy is French as fuck (you walk into a bistrot-PMU, you meet the same brown French drinking their red wine and lost in endless conversations about our mediocre football championship. You're right, there is nothing Latin in it, it's so boring French. Where are the beautiful Christmas markets? At least, this is 100% Germanic. Wearing a plastic viking helmet in a medieval festival is not enough.

I don't know why you and several other posters try to piss off Ilma so hard, telling her Normans have nothing to do with Scandinavia, and Nordic world. It's pathetic, really. Ofcourse they are ''French'' today as all other groups in that country, but they have every right to be proud of their Norse ancestry and history. What the hell has modern genetics to do with cultural identity ? Of course they can't be Norwegians, it would be absurd to expect so, but they can be Germanics with touch of Gallo-Roman blood and culture. If there is still old Norman spoken around there, it means their identity is by no means dead.

Also, what is so especially 100% Germanic about Christmas market ? You can find that kind of stuff in any Roman Catholic Slavic country including Croatia, does it make us Germans now ? Another thing to disagree with you is closeness of German and Norwegian culture (you claim they're very similar). I certanly wouldn't agree with you, Scandinavians are distinct from other Germanics in many ways including culture.

[Charles Bronson]

Are you sure average ethnic French has light brown hair ? Because from what I've seen, it is not the case. Average color is just brown, if you

Hehe, you have a eye on Illma.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Hehe, you have a eye on Illma.

Who doesn't ? Don't mind me, I get along with her really well here, she is like a forum sister. It's always refreshing to meet intelligent and well-mannered woman online who also happen to look fine.

[Ilma]

I divide the world in two parts : those who respect Normandy differences, culture and identity ; and those who spread bullshit on it.

The first ones have my respect, the second ones I curse.

Philip Latinowitz is part of the first ones

[Peterski]