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    Quote Originally Posted by Space and time View Post
    British, French and other westerners are from Central Asia? I don't get it
    son, look here:





    more here: http://komediowo.pl/gid,16686521,img...qticaid=618b59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër View Post
    Ditch your Sumerian theory, you are native to the Balkans like the rest of us
    I just started with Sumerians, i will go thru Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and who knows what else i think i got plenty of room to play with : D Ofc Sumerians are grandfathers as far as we know.

    Seems that M205 is really native in Fertile Crescent -


    Also by researches it is very possible that it both originated and expanded there - https://j2-m172.info/2016/10/possibl...ph1089-y22066/
    Also we know we are in Balkan max 1500-1600 years, so i might have really lived thru these civilizations and get out just before Arab conquer.

    Dont ruin my trip, i am in love with my hg lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dema View Post
    I just started with Sumerians, i will go thru Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and who knows what else i think i got plenty of room to play with : D Ofc Sumerians are grandfathers as far as we know.

    Seems that M205 is really native in Fertile Crescent -


    Also by researches it is very possible that it both originated and expanded there - https://j2-m172.info/2016/10/possibl...ph1089-y22066/
    Also we know we are in Balkan max 1500-1600 years, so i might have really lived thru these civilizations and get out just before Arab conquer.

    Dont ruin my trip, i am in love with my hg lol
    Very pale folks before the Arabs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Space and time View Post
    British, French and other westerners are from Central Asia? I don't get it


    (Indo-European admixture varies pretty much as a function of R1 concentration, one example I don't understand though is the Basques being so R1b despite being indigenous pre-IE European)

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    I would not take these maps seriously at all (have seen it all). All it is is someone guessing how Y-DNA make up looked in the past without any kind of evidence.

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    The biggest flaw is he claims "I2a1'" was in western Balkans since 2000BC. The western Balkan I2a1 falls under the CTS10228 (Dinaric) subclade and it's heavily connected to Slavic migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    The biggest flaw is he claims "I2a1'" was in western Balkans since 2000BC. The western Balkan I2a1 falls under the CTS10228 (Dinaric) subclade and it's heavily connected to Slavic migrations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    I would not take these maps seriously at all (have seen it all). All it is is someone guessing how Y-DNA make up looked in the past without any kind of evidence.
    Agreed. My first thoughts really.

    There's too much of a gap between South Slavs and Paleo-Balkanites in terms of Northeastern admixture that the only logic is the huge amount of I2a1b-Slavic clade brought southwards recently.

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    Useless map based on nothing done by some 400 lb guy from his New Jersey basement.

    Not a single I1 found where its homeland is shown(only I1 found in a Swedish HG and a Croatian farmer), R1b/R1a were in the exact same areas and were the majority haplogroup as west as the Baltics/Ukraine, no G2a in Greece/Anatolia/Balkans 7k B, no E in the Levant(Natufians were all E), Unetice shown as R1b when nearly all Unetice were I2.

    There's a giant ancient y-dna database, use it.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
    oldschool anthropology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër View Post
    Very pale folks before the Arabs

    I agree, this guy looks very pale and light skinned, i dont see any Arabic or African influence on him. They were for sure whiter then their neighbors Egyptians. I think Egyptians were in middle of white and black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Useless map based on nothing done by some 400 lb guy from his New Jersey basement.
    LOL.

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