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It's native from hunter gatherers and was definitely carried by ThraciansOriginally Posted by Sorcelow
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even some politicians have made statements in the last days about the slavic origin of I2a , publicly acknowledging they were wrong all along
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Really hahahaha, what did they say?
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Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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Illyrians probably did as well
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The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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im joking haha
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My yseq results should come out in a few more days. I'm so excited to see if I am J1 or not and to see what mtdna I have, I hope that I am J2b2 though
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Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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Oh lol. It's believable though lol as in the Balkans anything can happen
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Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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Bump.
It was an interesting thread, at least the important part. Seems that Albanians are more Slavic influenced than Greeks.
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No, Southern Albanians are simply very Greek-like in their genetics. A high rate of the very Greek Y-DNA J2a as well as similar rates of Slavic Y-DNA R1a and I2.
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I2a1b-Dinaric are the Slavicized populace of Pannonia and Dalmatia.
Those are Slavicized people of Rome whom Diocletian moved from Rome to Singidunum, Salona, Spalato etc.. He did that cause he was born in Salona himself, he wanted more civilized populace.
After massacre of Avars, Romans were everywhere but not in the cities, when Slavs captured major cities they eventually mixed with Roman populace whom they called
Vlachs.
We have Romance I2a1b-Din in Romania, and Slavic I2a1b-Din in Serbia/Bosnia.
I see no other explanation.
Aromanians (those who descended from Roman soldiers) Have R1b Y-DNA and I2a1b-Din... they obviously never had anything to do with Slavs.
I2a1b-Din in southern Albania are Vlachs.
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