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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Explanation for this is fairly simple.
    Again, pure coping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër View Post
    Again, pure coping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thevillager View Post
    One of the reasons why Thessalian neolithic expansion was so fluid and quick is mainly because I + J are brothers and in some sense G are also related where I + J was already in Europe when G migrated. E(gypt) just got on board for the ride

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    Examples of the basal/paragroup Haplogroup IJ* (M429) were first reported in a 2012 study of genetic diversity in Iran, by Grugni et al. These individuals were reported to be positive for M429 and negative for the SNPs M170 and M304, which define haplogroup I and haplogroup J respectively. However, because the researchers filtered for relatively few SNPs, these individuals may have carried less well-known SNPs equivalent to M170 and M304.[4][5] Given the limited scope of the testing – and the small number of haplogroup IJ samples that were discovered – few firm conclusions have yet been drawn.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_IJ#Origin

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    100% Slavo-Gypo Y-DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamCz View Post
    100% Slavo-Gypo Y-DNA
    Yup, same as your ambassador to the UK Ilir Kapiti I-S17250 who gladly blocked me when i asked him why he is that filthy Y haplogroup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    One of the reasons why Thessalian neolithic expansion was so fluid and quick is mainly because I + J are brothers and in some sense G are also related where I + J was already in Europe when G migrated. E(gypt) just got on board for the ride

    Learn first what different branches and subclades are, the I2a1b in the Balkans today isn't from the mesolithic, hunter gatherers or neolithic people (which was most likely absorbed by the incoming Indo - Europeans or who knows what happened to them considering it's such a long time ago) , The I2a1b is Slavic and is a bottle neck most likely that came with R1a from Eastern Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatnik View Post
    Yup, same as your ambassador to the UK Ilir Kapiti I-S17250 who gladly blocked me when i asked him why he is that filthy Y haplogroup.
    Most Albanians don't belong to this Y-DNA , but this is one of the most major lineages among Serbs, Croats, Bulgars etc together with R1a. Who also claim to be original inhabitants of the Balkans, speak a Slavo-Gypo language too that has it's origin in Czech Republic or the Carpathian basin.

    In Albanians it probably came with invading tribes and was absorbed. Some areas have it more than others. It is what it is. I am J-L283 from fathers side, E-V13 from mothers side. None of them linked to any Slavs based on matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamCz View Post
    Most Albanians don't belong to this Y-DNA , but this is one of the most major lineages among Serbs, Croats, Bulgars etc together with R1a. Who also claim to be original inhabitants of the Balkans, speak a Slavo-Gypo language too that has it's origin in Czech Republic or the Carpathian basin.

    In Albanians it probably came with invading tribes and was absorbed. Some areas have it more than others. It is what it is. I am J-L283 from fathers side, E-V13 from mothers side. None of them linked to any Slavs based on matches.
    But ambassador in one of for you most important countries is of Serb origin (from village of Kapit based on his last name which is very close to my village) and he is ashamed of that! Is that right?
    Paternal: E-Y20805

    Maternal: E-BY174450

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