Islam's success in 7th century was due to Christianity's absurdity

[Smitty]

Because we're talking about absurdity.

But pedophilia is a part of his religion. It's sick, but you're not going to get that through.

[Profileid]

But pedophilia is a part of his religion. It's sick, but you're not going to get that through.

I'm not trying to get through to him.
I'm just using this to remind everyone to keep his posts in perspective concerning Christianity

[Wadaad]

I'm not trying to get through to him.
I'm just using this to remind everyone to keep his posts in perspective concerning Christianity

Aisha RA herself narrated all those hadiths. 9 was not the exact age, but her desired age to hasten the chronology of the consumation for personal reasons. She was a maiden (bikir) during the consumation, and if it werent so, some immoral 21st century Westerners wouldnt be the first to notice such an offensive thing, but rather, Abu Bakr the father who offered Aisha's hand in marriage to the Prophet, the 1st Caliph of Islam, the Sahaba both of the Ansar and the Muhajirs, the Jews, the Quraish of Mecca, and everyone else up to the first time this was added to the arsenal of your infinite cache of slander and insults.

[Profileid]

Aisha RA herself narrated all those hadiths. 9 was not the exact age, but her desired age to hasten the chronology of the consumation for personal reasons. She was a maiden (bikir) during the consumation, and if it werent so, some immoral 21st century Westerners wouldnt be the first to notice such an offensive thing, but rather, Abu Bakr the father who offered Aisha's hand in marriage to the Prophet, the 1st Caliph of Islam, the Sahaba both of the Ansar and the Muhajirs, the Jews, the Quraish of Mecca, and everyone else up to the first time this was added to the arsenal of your infinite cache of slander and insults.

SEMANTICS

[Pulsa Dinura]

...and these were the people who became Muslim when they heard the Quran

...and these were the people who became Muslim when they saw the swords.

...and these were the people who became Muslim when they heard the Quran

Conquered people didn't speak Arabic, how could they understand the Quran?

[Wadaad]

...and these were the people who became Muslim when they saw the swords.


Conquered people didn't speak Arabic, how could they understand the Quran?

You do not need Arabic to be Muslim...believing in Allah is something non-verbal and yes, violence is also a non verbal gesture. Most of the Levant was still pred. Christian during the Crusades...Egypt was predominately Coptic up until the Mamelukes. The Maghreb had a strong Christian presence until the Almohads and a strong Jewish presence until Israel's creation. More than conversion, birth rate and slow gradual conversion of the 'umbrella' that the society was living under , transformed th ambience from predominately Christian, to predominately Muslim.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

More than any military conquest...the people of the Near east, you could almost hear their collective sigh of relief, when Islam came and simplified the concept of monotheism and completely banished the offensive dogma of Trinity. More so than offensive jihad, the jizya tax, or anything else...the absuridity of Christianity's creed is what led to Islam's early success.

The absurdity here is Muslims giving an omnipotent being limitations. Who are Muslims or anyone to say what God can and can not do? Islam is not a higher thinking religion. It's a religion based on community rules without spirituality. This is why they have difficulty with abstractions such as the Trinity.

This is why from 300 AD (council of Nicaea) to around the Monophysite controversy of emperor Justinian's time in the 590s...there were more than 2 dozen Heretical Christian groups in the MENA. These Heretical, gnostic, and so on cults were in their own pathetic (but admirable) way, shunning the ROME pagan influence that they could name, but felt in their fitra...and these were the people who became Muslim when they heard the Quran.

In the Old Testament God rewards those who follows the true path and punishes those who offend him. God has rewarded Christians and Jews who are tied together to a common root. God has punished Muslims for distorting It's image. Your nations are poor and plaque ridden (isn't there a famine in Somali now? Guess who will be sending relief? Christians most likely) A religion based on claiming Jew and Christian texts are distortions because some guy who mixed Judaism, Christianity and local paganism together says so and... what a shock... changes his behavior and teachings based on whether he's in a position of power or weakness.

Where is your rock you walk around in the Old Testament (Torah)? Oh, right... Man's hands erased it from the text cuz... um... lolz Why aren't there any ancient texts of the Torah found that are different than the one the Jews use today?

The reality is Christianity was a Jewish heresy that benefited people at the time (it's no longer necessary; we've evolved further). I don't consider Islam one of the Abrahamic religions. It's the equivalent to Mormonism in my eyes. The difference being Joseph Smith was more creative than Muhammad.

[wvwvw]

Islam was successful in spreading because it was designed to facilitate Arab imperialism. It is a warrior's religion. It was Prophet Mohammed himself who led the first jihad against the infidels

This spirit is best summed up in a hadith from Sahih al Bukhari where the Prophet said: "Know that Paradise is under the shade of swords". It is really an invitation to die for Allah.

Allah would assure them victory. In the short run, they might suffer defeat. But death even in defeat only hastens their entry into paradise. So, either way they win.

Also see: Once were warriors: Why Islam failed Muslims
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/Ohmyrus20925.htm

[Pulsa Dinura]

You do not need Arabic to be Muslim..

How can you be a Muslim without understanding what is written in your Holy Book?

Most of the Levant was still pred. Christian during the Crusades...

...before and during the Crusades.

[Insuperable]