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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    Aisha RA herself narrated all those hadiths. 9 was not the exact age, but her desired age to hasten the chronology of the consumation for personal reasons. She was a maiden (bikir) during the consumation, and if it werent so, some immoral 21st century Westerners wouldnt be the first to notice such an offensive thing, but rather, Abu Bakr the father who offered Aisha's hand in marriage to the Prophet, the 1st Caliph of Islam, the Sahaba both of the Ansar and the Muhajirs, the Jews, the Quraish of Mecca, and everyone else up to the first time this was added to the arsenal of your infinite cache of slander and insults.
    Mohammad was a subhuman unworthy to be whatever he claimed to be. A pedophile, a warlord, caravan raider, head chopper, basically a subhuman whose charisma grew the more he wielded with the sword. Just deal with it. Also Muslims are very stupid people and Muslims on this forum continue to prove that. Idk why but you all seem stupid.

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    The Islamic conquest is an example of what happens when superior peoples with culture and thought of a higher order cuck themselves, squander too much of their wealth, power and luxury on dumb cuck ideas and ill-conceived wars, forget about real struggle in life and let their guard down. Modern day Westerners should take note.

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    same shit, both are religions

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    All Abrahamic religions are absurd. But out of all of them Islam is the most absurd no offence VVadaad, but I don't see how people believe in a magical desert djin. I would rather watch Arabian Nights

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    Islam had success only because Byzantine and Sasanian empires were exhausted after 26 years of war vs each other, their resources were depleted and their armies annihilated, the border fortresses undermanned, so the Muslims had only the good luck to find the two hulking neighbours in bad health, stabbing them in the back at the right historical moment, coming from a border that in the previous millennia was never a menace. For this reason the Muslim armies found little resistance towards north Africa and Middle East. If the Muslim came out 25 years before they would have surely been crushed by the great army of emperor Heraclius before they became a menace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    More than any military conquest...the people of the Near east, you could almost hear their collective sigh of relief, when Islam came and simplified the concept of monotheism and completely banished the offensive dogma of Trinity. More so than offensive jihad, the jizya tax, or anything else...the absuridity of Christianity's creed is what led to Islam's early success.

    This is why from 300 AD (council of Nicaea) to around the Monophysite controversy of emperor Justinian's time in the 590s...there were more than 2 dozen Heretical Christian groups in the MENA. These Heretical, gnostic, and so on cults were in their own pathetic (but admirable) way, shunning the ROME pagan influence that they could name, but felt in their fitra...and these were the people who became Muslim when they heard the Quran.
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    The unitarian, simpler dogma was indeed useful to help it propagate in a region where many Christian schisms and sects did not accept trinitarianism all that well.

    This said, the "success" of Islam in the 7th century was almost exclusively due to military force. The aggressive expansion westwards would not have been possible had the Eastern Roman Empire and the Parthians not been debilitated after centuries of conflict, and had the Visigoth´s Grip on Hispania and Septimania not been ridden by internal dinastic conflict and regional uprisings (such as the Astures and Baskonic tribes)

    The reall blossoming of Islamic civilisation occured in Damascus and then Qorduba in the 9th and 10th centuries. Both reigns were at the time multicultural. In the Qorduba Caliphate, the population was 90% Christian Hispano-Romans with the muslim population concentrated in the capital (The largest and richest city in Europe at the time)

    Qorduba in the 900´s was a sight to behold indeed. But even then, it was not a "Muslim only" city. more than 2/5 of the poppulation was composed of Christians and Jews from Hispania, and then a large number of slaves , many of which converted to Islam, brought in from all over the Empire.

    Islamic´s doctrine in this period varied substantially to what it would be from the 11th century and onwards. Islmaic civilisation never trully recovered from the splendour of Damascus and Qorduba, even though they would conquer and expand into even greater territory stratches.

    Also, as a note, the muslim conquest of India not only was detrimental to a rich and very advanced civilsiation; it was also one fo the worst humanitarian catastrophes and accompanied by one of the worst campaigns of extermination ever known to the human race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    More than any military conquest...the people of the Near east, you could almost hear their collective sigh of relief, when Islam came and simplified the concept of monotheism and completely banished the offensive dogma of Trinity. More so than offensive jihad, the jizya tax, or anything else...the absuridity of Christianity's creed is what led to Islam's early success.

    This is why from 300 AD (council of Nicaea) to around the Monophysite controversy of emperor Justinian's time in the 590s...there were more than 2 dozen Heretical Christian groups in the MENA. These Heretical, gnostic, and so on cults were in their own pathetic (but admirable) way, shunning the ROME pagan influence that they could name, but felt in their fitra...and these were the people who became Muslim when they heard the Quran.

    Islam's success in 7th century was due to a Plague.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Justinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Paganism is not present in Protestantism at any rate.

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