Turkish with Wolf products

[planet9]

In the myth of old Turks, Turks are from the union of male gray wolf with human mother somewhere in a an unaccessible valley called Ergenekon which is probably somewhere in Altai mountains. And this is how it became our symbol.

This is new to me, afaik it was a she-wolf nursing a male boy who became the first turkic.

[Norka]

This looks like spam. But these look good.

[wvwvw]

What does the Wolf symbolize in Turkish culture?

The Turks are taught that at the dawn of history their ancestors, led by a mythical grey she-wolf, started migrating outwards from the heart of Central Asia as the numbers of their people swelled and droughts dried the traditional grazing lands on the steppe. Some of them, they are told, even crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas, presumably becoming the American Indians. In his later, more deluded years, Ataturk himself adopted a bizarre creed known as the `Sun Theory', which depicts the Turks as the mother race of all mankind.

Tangled Roots

Galloping from farthest Asia
like a mare's head reaching for the Mediterranean
this country is ours.
Wrists drenched in blood, teeth clenched, feet bare
and soil smooth as a silken carpet
this hell, this paradise is ours.
Nazim Hikmet (1902-63)

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/p/pope-turkey.html

[Pennywise]

The Turks are taught that at the dawn of history their ancestors, led by a mythical grey she-wolf, started migrating outwards from the heart of Central Asia as the numbers of their people swelled and droughts dried the traditional grazing lands on the steppe. Some of them, they are told, even crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas, presumably becoming the American Indians. In his later, more deluded years, Ataturk himself adopted a bizarre creed known as the `Sun Theory', which depicts the Turks as the mother race of all mankind.

Those are all uncredited pseudo-science made up in early 20th century when these things were popular all around the world. I don't know why Greeks keep coming up with this all the time.

And the wolf is part of the creation myth of Gokturks, ruling Ashina clan more specifically. It wasn't shared by all Turkic peoples in the history, Turanist circles turned it into a nationalistic symbol in mid. 20th century.

[planet9]

The Turks are taught that at the dawn of history their ancestors, led by a mythical grey she-wolf, started migrating outwards from the heart of Central Asia as the numbers of their people swelled and droughts dried the traditional grazing lands on the steppe. Some of them, they are told, even crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas, presumably becoming the American Indians. In his later, more deluded years, Ataturk himself adopted a bizarre creed known as the `Sun Theory', which depicts the Turks as the mother race of all mankind.

Tangled Roots

Galloping from farthest Asia
like a mare's head reaching for the Mediterranean
this country is ours.
Wrists drenched in blood, teeth clenched, feet bare
and soil smooth as a silken carpet
this hell, this paradise is ours.
Nazim Hikmet (1902-63)

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/p/pope-turkey.html

Actually this is not what turks are though, turks today are though to live like an arab in psychosis.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Those are all uncredited pseudo-science made up in early 20th century when these things were popular all around the world. I don't know why Greeks keep coming up with this all the time.

And the wolf is part of the creation myth of Gokturks, ruling Ashina clan more specifically. It wasn't shared by all Turkic peoples in the history, Turanist circles turned it into a nationalistic symbol in mid. 20th century.

Did you even bother to check who started this fucking thread?

"Greeks coming up with this all the time" my arse... If we Greeks wanted to fuck your brains out, what makes you think we don't have enough serious issues to humiliate you? How many threads do you want me to start in the Turkish section, just for fun???

[Böri]

Galloping from farthest Asia
like a mare's head reaching for the Mediterranean
this country is ours.
Wrists drenched in blood, teeth clenched, feet bare
and soil smooth as a silken carpet
this hell, this paradise is ours.
Nazim Hikmet (1902-63)

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/p/pope-turkey.html

Wow I didnt know that commie wrote this beautiful poem. I respect him more now.