Have been Slavs really considered inferior by Nazi Germany?

[XenophobicPrussian]

Look at the pyramid, even the Norwegians were not considered enough "nordics" by nazis

It's a random picture. Where's the source for it? Most of the stuff involving Nazis is fake or misrepresented.

You know this book?



It's common for people to say it was about Slavs. It wasn't.

[skunkwerks]

It's a random picture. Where's the source for it? Most of the stuff involving Nazis is fake or misrepresented.

You know this book?



It's common for people to say it was about Slavs. It wasn't.

Disagree.

The Nazis never considered the Scandinavians or Dutch equal to Germans, even though both are Nordic. And its quite hilarious seeing these Slavs (considered subhumans) twisting facts around to show that the Nazis supposedly considered them their equals.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Not sure if that can be called "favourable view", but OK.

Here is what Hitler wrote about Czechs:

"(...) Of all the Slavs, the Czech is the most dangerous one (...) he is more Mongoloid than Slavic. He knows how to hide his plans behind a certain loyalty. (...) An alien racial splinter has penetrated our folkdom, and one must yield, they or we. That's one of the reasons why the Habsburgs perished. They believed they could solve the problem through kindness. (...)"

And more from Hitler about Czechs:

"(...) Already as young boys we knew, that this Austrian state did not show any affection for us, Germans. Our knowledge about methods of conduct of the Habsburgs was being confirmed each day by daily experiences. In the north and in the south the poison of alien races [= Czechs etc.] was devouring the flesh of our nation and even Vienna was gradually less and less resembling a German city. The Emperor's House was becoming Czech where only that was possible; finally the hand of the goddess of everlasting justice and unrelenting vengeance killed the greatest enemy of the Germanness of Austria - Archduke Franz Ferdinand. He was killed by a bullet whom he had personally helped. After all, he was the main patron of the movement the goal of which was to turn Austria into a Slavic country. The embryo of the World War and indeed the total ruin of Germany were caused by fatal alliance between the young German Reich with the Austrian artificial state. (...) Since my earliest adolescence I was convinced, that the destruction of Austria is the necessary condition for the security of the German race. (...) The misfortune for the German race was especially the ruling House of Habsburg. The consequences of that was my passionate love of the German Austria and my deep hatred of the Austrian State. (...) Because the domination of the ethnic German element had been broken, the system served for games between particular nationalities. Generally the line of development was established against Germans. Especially from times when the Archduke, Franz Ferdinand, began to grow in strength, and he supported Czech ambitions. The future ruler of the monarchy attempted with use of all means to cause the process of De-Germanization. This is why often German settlements were being slowly but efficiently subjected to influence of foreign-speaking nations. In Lower Austria the process was much faster and many Czechs considered Vienna to be their own city. The main idea of that new Habsburg, whose family spoke Czech (wife of the Archduke was an ethnic Czech countess and in her family there were strong anti-German traditions), aimed at establishing in Central Europe a Slavic state with Catholic religion as a counter-weight to Orthodox Russia. That's how religion became once again involved in serving political concepts, which was frequent in Habsburg policies. (...) After the war of 1870 the House of Habsburg slowly, with premeditation and determination, started an effort leading to rooting out the German race - it was the goal of the Slavophile family of the Emperor. (...)"

That's why Czechs were going to have their own state if the Nazis won(albeit an absolutely screwed one with most of its territories taken, which is bullshit).

Still, that's Hitler, a lot of Nazi sources say they found Czechs to be "a race that can be assimilated". Let's not forget there were also ethnic Czech/Polish members of the government. They also probably liked them because the Czechs barely resisted and only lost 2.3-2.4% of their population in the war, and that's including Jews, compared to 17% for Poland(50% of which were Jews).

[Peterski]

Sounds like Hitler was butthurted that Czechs were more successful than Germans.

The same was with Jews, who dominated Germany despite, being a tiny minority:

[skunkwerks]

Sounds like Hitler was butthurted that Czechs were more successful than Germans.

Lol you're the one who's writing all sorts of stuff to try to show the Nazis considered Poles and Czechs to be equal to Germans.

[Peterski]

Lol you're the one who's writing all sorts of stuff to try to show the Nazis considered Poles and Czechs to be equal to Germans.

No. I just checked pre-1939 statistics on things such as income by ethnicity, etc.

And these statistics show that in pre-war Czechoslovakia an average ethnic Czech was better off than an average ethnic German. Of course the Nazis attributed that to discrimination against Germans.

Just like Black Lives Matter attributes everything to discrimination against Blacks.

In pre-war Poland German minority was also not better off than ethnic Polish majority. But there is no real ethnic data, just religious data (I count Protestants as Germans, Roman Catholics as Poles).

Of course there were similar claims that Germans were discriminated against.

[Peterski]

Free City Danzig was butthurted that it could not compete against Gdynia:

"(...) The Poles have done all in their power to foster Gdynia, and Danzig suffers accordingly. As preparations were completed in Gdynia, Danzig's trade dwindled. In 1926, 179 tons of goods were imported via Gdynia, and 640,696 tons by way of Danzig, the corresponding export figures being 413,826 and 5,659,604 tons. The total goods passing through Gdynia in 1926 were thus 414,005 tons, as compared with Danzig's 6,300,299 tons. By 1933 Gdynia's total had increased enormously to 6,105,866 tons, while Danzig's total fell to 5,152,975 tons. In 1929, to quote in percentages, 75.2% of the goods exported by way of the sea passed through Danzig and 24.8% through Gdynia; in 1933 Danzig's participation had fallen to 45.8%, and Gdynia's had risen to 54.2%.

Danzig thus sees its future threatened. Gdynia is to become, as Danzigers told me, Poland's future port, and Danzig is to have nothing. This, at least, is what the people think, and figures undoubtedly show that this is the tendency. For only less valuable goods are transported via Danzig. According to value, Danzig participated in 1938 to the tune of 7.5% of all Poland's [40] imports, while Gdynia's share totalled 53.7%. Ores and gravel passed through Danzig.

The claim made by Marshal Rydz in a speech at Cracow on August 6th, 1939, was that Danzig was "Poland's lungs, as in one organism." This view is, however, difficult to uphold when the figures I have quoted are studied. Or, one might say, the speech should have been made before 1924, and is somewhat out of date - for the building of Gdynia made Danzig a back-number. In reality, of course, Danzig never really earned this designation, but since 1924 it is an obvious misnomer. (...)"

[XenophobicPrussian]

Sounds like Hitler was butthurted that Czechs were more successful than Germans.

The same was with Jews, who dominated Germany despite, being a tiny minority:

Jews dominated every country. The numbers were higher for Hungary(nearly all Nobel Prize winners and scientists from Hungary are Jewish) and probably higher for Poland. Jews dominating more in Austro-Hungary than Germany or even the Czech Republic vs Germany has nothing to do with ethnic German performance vs ethnic Czech performance.

If anything they were butthurt and envious of Jews, not Czechs(what a stupid thing to say). but of course, it's okay to oppose foreigners ruling over a population if they're Africans under colonialism or Russians being ruled by German monarchs/industrialists.

Nothing really butthurt about it either. Butthurt is asking for free handouts like black people. If blacks fought back for their own state and land instead of wanting handouts from whitey, they wouldn't be butthurt, they'd be freedom fighters.

[DarknessWin]

There is virtually no modern (recent) Asian admixture to the west of Russia (and at least 50% of Slavs are Non-Russians). Slavs are tall even in poor countries (where many people are probably malnourished):

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...allest-peoples

As you probably know height is not just genetics, but genetics + nutrition.

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This data doesn't account for Slavic minorities in other countries and for Non-Slavic minorities in Slavic countries, but it is a good approximation (and it shows that Russians are no more than half of all Slavs):

This is the slavophone countries and not the slavs, actually Yugoslavians and Bulgarians are Dinaro-Med and Pontids Native Balkanians.
Russians on the other hand are mostly Baltids in phenotype.

[TheMadScientist]

The nazi party used racial motivated rhetoric during a time of mass populism and nationalistic pride in Germany to sway the German population's in favor of war. 'All slavs are subhuman', 'they do not deserve mercy or compassion that the German people deserve' it is a just war, instead of a tyrannical government invading countries at there own will. It's all a casus belli for war that Governments have used throughout time but fit the political and societal consciousness of Germany at the time. For instance the United States government would have not been allowed to invade any middle eastern countries if not for the public being in favor of war. Our population (United States) was motivated by fear while the German country at that time was motivated by extreme pride. Some of it was factually based but most were uninformed prejudgement. Just as some Slavs are more 'aryan' or 'nordic' than some Germans are themselves. The masses are easily swayed and smart leaders (Almost all of them) realize this.