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    Quote Originally Posted by jingorex View Post
    whats the difference then, these days?
    Liberals means belief in Freedom to me, like a Libertarian comes from Liberal. I believe in multiculturalism and have no problems with diversity unlike many people here. It is not easy but the USA is all about Freedom and is a melting pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Liberal believe in Freedom to me, like a Libertarian comes from Liberal. I believe in multiculturalism and have no problems with diversity unlike many people here. It is not easy but the USA is all about Freedom and is a melting pot.

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    Marxism's idea of one party Polit Bureau control of everything and the state making decisions for all is not a real liberal ideal. It is phony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Liberals means belief in Freedom to me, like a Libertarian comes from Liberal. I believe in multiculturalism and have no problems with diversity unlike many people here. It is not easy but the USA is all about Freedom and is a melting pot.
    liberalism nowdays means something entirely different, it means political correctnes is used as a tool to achieve collectivism under the cloak of "freedom of expresion for everyone".. It reduces everybody to lowest possible(because the ugly feel opressed by the attracive, the weak and loser by the strong and succesfull etc. = this is not freedom but totalitarian, forced equalization = same as communism) and its goal is to eradicate all differences so people become conformist robots with no identity = global communism

    people are forced into communism under the cloak of freedom and equal rights for everyone

    social justice warriors are the new KGB, they destroy race, class, family, gender etc. under the slogan of "equality". equality is sold as the key to freedom for the opressed, but in fact it is just a tool to destroy all freedom of expression and natural inborn differences, which results in communism. it makes everyone equally weak and miserable under the cloak of "eliminating discrimination and bringing freedom for everyone"

    this results in moral decay and decadence/degeneration, the same happened in ancient rome..

    weak genes are spread because there is no natural selection present since everyone is "equal", this leads to degeneracy and decay..

    so the idea of liberty for everyone is misused for the end goal of a globalist society where all nations, races and individual freedoms are melted into one world government dystopia! it is a trap for those who believe in it, instead of freedom and liberty, slavery and diactatorship awaits you..

    political correctness with its slogan of "equality", is the thought police which will lead people into global communism

    political correctness is a new form of totalitarianism, a new form of egalitarian leftist dicatatorship when every human is reduced to lowest common denominator

    those who call themselves liberals nowdays are in fact communists!
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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    liberalism nowdays means something entirely different, it means political correctnes is used as a tool to achieve collectivism under the cloak of "freedom of expresion for everyone".. It reduces everybody to lowest possible and its goal is to eradicate all differences so people become conformist robots with no identity = global communism
    I hate political correctness and do not like when phony liberals try to shut down free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    I hate political correctness and do not like when phony liberals try to shut down free speech.
    modern liberals do not make sense, on one hand they say they fight for freedom and against oppression, on the other hand they preach equality and egalitarianism/collectivism.. they are insane. they are pawns for the globalist/communist elites who want to melt all races into one bunch of bland, mediocre mass of slave workers who follow their dystopian agenda.. communists always seduce you with sweet sounding slogans of universal brotherhood, peace, and love, but in the end it always ends up in a collectivist dictatorship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    modern liberals do not make sense, on one hand they say they fight for freedom and against oppression, on the other hand they preach equality and egalitarianism/collectivism.. they are insane. they are pawns for the globalist/communist elites who want to melt all races into one bunch of bland, mediocre mass of slave workers who follow their dystopian agenda.. communists always seduce you with sweet sounding slogans of universal brotherhood, peace, and love, but in the end it always ends up in a collectivist dictatorship!
    They tend to think they can tell people how to live their lives but they are not real liberals in my opinion.

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    you see now why i like rethel???


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    "The human mind has no built-in firewall that can serve as a defense against lies, propaganda, and false values. The firewall must be instilled by high-minded cultural caregivers. The same vulnerability is generally true of cultures. Without a high wall banning TV and Hollywood movies, cultures become destabilized and ripe for New World Order takeover by transmission of hyperreal TV and video messages to children. We have dealt with this problem in more detail in our posts How Postmodernism Controls Your Identity. Migrations out of villages to cities further breaks societies, even when the migrations are not controlled by the New World Order interests, such as in Mexico. It’s very difficult to think of a people who have embraced Western industrialization and not lost their culture entirely. The Japanese come to mind, but Japan’s post-World War II leaders embraced population control, and the Japanese are now in danger of dying out after badly skewing their population mix. China, for example, has completely lost its great Confucian, Taoist, and Buddhist heritage under Communist persecution.
    Not all cultures completely die out when nations embrace modernism, but Marxism actively and purposely destroys the past and hides its own history. The irony of this project is that Marxism itself is based on national stereotypes of the nineteenth century.


    The project of Marxist modernity is to destroy all existing cultures and all existing social arrangements. If they can break your link to the great heritage of the human past, they can control you easily because now you have no identity. The Marxists have the replacement identity ready to instill in you through propaganda and brainwashing. Your new identity is, servant of the revolution and follower of the party line.


    Cultural Marxism is a method of mind control that is designed to operate through modern media to accomplish the same goal psychologically, without torture. Cultural Marxism dominates modern media. Cultural Marxism ridicules existing culture and presents you with politically correct Communist models. You respond to the image and the suggestion because you have no built-in firewall of superior values. If they can get you to imagine that handing over power to them will result in some positive outcome (progress) rather than the endless wars and economic exploitation that Marxism causes, they don’t need to use force. You agree to your own self-destruction. In fact, you give them money so you can receive their message over and over again. The messages are nicely constructed. They are better than the reality you face when you walk out your door.
    TV is the matrix. Pretty much everybody is in it now. That’s why, when you talk to a liberal you already know what they are going to say. TV produces uniform zombies who regurgitate the slogans and the models subconsciously. There is no active thinking or active consciousness in the process. It is subconscious and mechanical. That is why it is easy to get liberals to interact with robots, act like robots, and embrace a future full of robots. Liberals are the most robot-like people on earth because they accept the TV messages without a filter.


    As if that wasn’t enough, they now have cell phones, internet, video games, movies, music, a whole universe of pseudo-culture for you to play with. The sophistication of the electronic message appears superior to all those old people actually grappling with material reality and with difficult ideas. You are a modern, superior, sophisticated consumer of up-to-date surrealist images. Pity the poor caveman, or even those Greeks and Romans. You are surfing the wave of the future while they were dealing with difficult stuff you don’t understand. You don’t want to deal with any difficult stuff.


    Cultural Marxism is the planned destruction of Western culture and the substitution of a degenerate pseudo-culture based on image manipulation. You can identify the pseudo-culture because it never refers to the great heritage of Western civilization. It is designed to break your identity with the great culture of the past and those who made it.


    When you watch Cultural Marxist TV programming, you are surfing a funhouse of mirrors, and if we take you out of your self-delusion for a moment, you get irritable and angry and confused because you are dreaming their dreams, and anyone who isn’t dreaming the same dream seems like a threat, or hopelessly inferior.


    The more children watch TV, the worse their mental health. This applies to everyone except you, of course. You have a firm grip on reality while you are cycling through hyperreality day after day. OK, let’s have a little test. Describe the plot of a TV show you watched in 2004. Sing the lyrics of a song you liked in 1997. Tell me a few Robin Williams jokes, the great classic ones. You want to build your life around this stuff, right? It’s your culture, right? Why can’t you remember anything significant about it? Because there is nothing significant about it. It has no basis. It’s a kind of magic trick, an endless stream of illusion.


    Two of the most important themes in the mass liberal crap culture are the kitsch pseudo-culture of socialism and the satanic subculture of occultism. Belief in a brotherhood of man spawns the kitsch culture, the nauseating socialist sloganeering and Communist role modeling of political correctness and Green politics. Appeals to diversity, multi-racial harmony, and the mix of incompatible customs and beliefs in some multicultural stew are designed to produce weak liberal sissies who are incapable of discerning positive human values from slogans of control. They always follow the party line and look to parties and leaders to guide them. Kitsch is the poster culture of the lemmings who imagine they are part of some wave of history evolving consciously toward global utopia. They actually believe the promises and the image manipulation of the politicians. They are the conditioned robots who wait like baby birds with their beaks open, chirping for a worm from their socialist controllers and anxious about conformity to the next socialist directive. This is entirely consistent with the materialist view of history and the Pavlovian conditioning stimulus-response theory for the control of the socialist masses. These materialist liberals actually make themselves into conditioned serfs.


    Satanism models occult symbols and themes as the key to achieving power through self-will. Satanism is for the adolescents who are not completely neutered by socialist slogans. Satanism promises a shift of power for the individual, away from the lobotomized mass kitsch culture of socialist obedience to modeling the thrill of extreme individualism. Satanism holds out the possibility of joining the elite controllers, not by achieving great wealth or by joining the Model UN and drafting codes to limit free speech and control population but by breaking the social control mechanisms to embrace channeled messages from the Spiritual Masters. Occult symbol manipulation, mind control through hypnosis, altered consciousness, sex and drug indulgence, extreme narcissism, goddess worship, and pagan revival are gateways to the promise of superpowers, guided by dark spirits.


    Your children will exhibit symptoms of one or both of these personality control themes because you have not exposed them to the great traditions of Western culture and given them a real identity. Eventually you will have to pull them out of their drug habit and send them to the rehab culture of psychotherapy and self-help if you want them to live. Psychotherapy and self-help are also socialist traps, so you won’t really be breaking the circle of imprisonment. Rehab is now built into TV programming as part of liberal normalcy. But psychology and self-help never break the subconscious association of images that constitute your mental life, so you never end up acting consciously out of high human value, you continue to cycle their images in your subconscious.


    Actually breaking out of unconscious mechanical life into conscious life is far more difficult than you can imagine. Once they get you, the odds are you are going to remain got.


    Watch children’s cartoons closely and you will see both of these anti-social themes modeled prominently. If you wonder why your little angel grew up to become a feminist slut and goddess satanist, well, it starts with the cartoons.


    Or perhaps your kids are junior entrepreneurs who model consumption of brand-name products and strive for corporate status. Congratulations, you’ve avoided the worst of the mass pseudoculture. Now all you have to worry about is whether they become marketing managers manipulating mass consumption through subliminal image associations and occult surrealism. When your kids know the difference between Coke and Pepsi and have all the latest stuff, when they spend their time on cell phones and video games and social networking, you’ll know you succeeded as a parent.


    The only firewall that works is learning about the great noble values of the high traditions of Western art, music, philosophy, literature, and religion. Everything else has been assimilated into the liberal death culture. Without this firewall, your kids will become financial manipulators, mass media manipulators, lying politicians, Green global activists, public school teachers, or socialist bureaucrats. They will become zombie programmed liberals carrying their nauseating crap values like infected rodents, programmed to infect the innocent.


    But this is actually the best thing that can happen to them. How about the really damaged kids, the dumbed-down products of matriarchal feminism and the divorce culture? At the intersection of matriarchy and forced integration is where you find the really bottomless pit of the liberal sludge culture, the lost stoned rebels who imagine they are Negro rap gangsters, pimps and prostitutes, Star Wars heroes, goddesses, social justice thieves, fashion mannikins, internet hustlers, rock stars.
    I see your kids every day in my town. They have no self-control. They have no respect for elders, or for high achievers, or for noble warriors, or for any of the pockets of human greatness in history. They can’t read, but they can ride skateboards and eat packaged junk and talk on cell phones and play video games. They know who the most famous feminist sluts are, but they can’t find India on a map. You’ve managed to make sure I can’t influence them, but here is the news: You’re not going to influence them very much either because the Communist UN Treaty to Take Over the Child is going to make sure parents have no right to educate their children. You will be temporary caretakers at the pleasure of some state bureaucracy devoted to monitoring your most personal habits and making sure your kids are following the right Communist role models. Have a nice day, good luck in dealing with your local child authority board, and thanks for nothing."
    http://newworldorderuniversity.com/d...eoples-dreams/

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