View Poll Results: Which state supported South Africa the strongest during the apartheid era?

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    Default Who was South Africa's best friend during the apartheid era?

    An interesting question - one that helps inform where current geopolitical preferences should lie - is one concerning the question of how various states dealt with South Africa during the apartheid era. It isn't often explored in nationalist circles and in my opinion it should be.

    Your thoughts?

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    Israel, probably. There was lots of cooperation, including nuclear.

    I see you have Taiwan on the list. Yes, they were also very strong allies. As for the US? No way! Quite the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Israel, probably. There was lots of cooperation, including nuclear.
    After the Yom Kippur War, you may be correct. The only rub is that Israel was a major critic and aligned with African states in the 60's.

    As you may be aware, the mullahs in Iran were especially heavy backers of the ANC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    The only rub is that Israel was a major critic and aligned with African states in the 60's.
    So was the rest of the world. The UK, whilst pressuring diplomatically, was still in a way friendly. Probably because of their prior involvement in the Boer War. They wanted to be kind to us, but it was difficult on the world stage. They certainly did better than the Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    So was the rest of the world. The UK, whilst pressuring diplomatically, was still in a way friendly. Probably because of their prior involvement in the Boer War. They wanted to be kind to us, but it was difficult on the world stage. They certainly did better than the Americans.
    Arguably, though the US protected South Africa with several UN vetoes.

    My point with Israel though is that it was less friendly to South Africa in the 60's than either the US or the UK.

    Frankly though, I think perhaps Taiwan was the most consistent friend, and it's very sad that I'm inclined to say that.

    Edit: We might ask as well who was South Africa's worst enemy? My vote: the USSR, hands down.

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    The US, as far as I know, had Cuba-like sanctions against apartheid South Africa. I voted Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood View Post
    The US, as far as I know, had Cuba-like sanctions against apartheid South Africa. I voted Israel.
    The US didn't actually impose the economic boycott until the European Community did, and even then it took overcoming a Reagan veto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Israel, probably. There was lots of cooperation, including nuclear.

    I see you have Taiwan on the list. Yes, they were also very strong allies. As for the US? No way! Quite the opposite.
    How about Japan? I'm vaguely aware of them trading with the RSA despite the embargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    The US didn't actually impose the economic boycott until the European Community did, and even then it took overcoming a Reagan veto.
    Canada was the first to impose the economic boycott, under John Diefenbaker. I remember when sanctions were lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    Frankly though, I think perhaps Taiwan was the most consistent friend, and it's very sad that I'm inclined to say that.
    Yes, Taiwan was desperate for allies with the Chinese threat. SA being very anti-Communist got their full support. These days Taiwan's sovereignty is still under threat, but China has changed a lot ... and incorporation into China might actually not be a bad thing for them. Otherwise they risk being marginalized.

    Edit: We might ask as well who was South Africa's worst enemy? My vote: the USSR, hands down.
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