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    Default Physical appearance of ancient Scythians

    Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europioid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[47]


    The earliest studies could only analyze segments of mtDNA, thus providing only broad correlations of affinity to modern 'West Eurasian' or 'East Eurasian' populations. For example, a 2002 study, the mitochondrial DNA of Saka period male and female skeletal remains from a double inhumation kurgan at the Beral site in Kazakhstan was analysed. The two individuals were found to be not closely related. The HV1 mitochondrial sequence of the male was similar to the Anderson sequence which is most frequent in European populations. On the other hand, the HV1 sequence of the female suggested a greater likelihood of Asian origins.[48]

    More recent studies have been able to type for specific mtDNA lineages. For example, a 2004 study studied the HV1 sequence obtained from a male "Scytho-Siberian" at the Kizil site in the Altai Republic. It belonged to the N1a maternal lineage, a geographically "west Eurasian lineage."[49] Another study by the same team, again from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons found in the Altai Republic, were phenotypically males "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of "East Eurasian" populations.[50]

    Ancient Y-DNA data was finally provided by Keyser et al in 2009. They studied the haplotypes and haplogroups of 26 ancient human specimens from the Krasnoyarsk area in Siberia dated from between the middle of the 2nd millennium BC and the 4th century AD (Scythian and Sarmatian timeframe). Nearly all subjects belong to haplogroup R-M17. The authors suggest that their data shows that between Bronze and Iron Ages the constellation of populations known variously as Scythians, Andronovians, etc. were blue- (or green-) eyed, fair-skinned and light-haired people who might have played a role in the early development of the Tarim Basin civilization. Moreover, this study found that they were genetically more closely related to modern populations of eastern Europe than those of central and southern Asia.[54] The ubiquity and utter dominance of R1a Y-DNA lineage contrasts markedly with the diversity seen in the mtDNA profiles.

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    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[128] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[128] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[128][129] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[128][130] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[128] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterizes the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[128][131] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[128][132] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterized by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[128] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[128][133] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[134]

    The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[135] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[128][136] It is possible that the later physical descriptions by Adamantius and Gregory of Scythians refer to East Germanic tribes, as the latter were frequently referred to as "Scythians" in Roman sources at that time.


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    Probably like Lithuanians.

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    Scythians were Iranic people

    A reconstructed face of a Scythian noblemman buried in the Nikopol kurhan




    I believe they looked like Iranic Kalash people of Pakistan :










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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Probably like Lithuanians.
    Lithuanians are Proto-Balts people



    Scythians were Iranic and if some of modern people have Scythian dna would be in Hungary

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Lithuanians are Proto-Balts people



    Scythians were Iranic and if some of modern people have Scythian dna would be in Hungary
    Nope.

    We already know who the Scythians looked like -- Romans mistook Germanic tribesmen for Scythians.

    Their depictions of themselves are very clear: ancient Scythians looked like Tom Cruise.









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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post


    Fake beard color, he dyes his beard red to honor the Prophet Mohammed as many old Muslim men do. This Papua New Guinean freak couldn't pass for Pakistani much less ancient Scythian.

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    Ayoo, hol' up....
    So iz u tellin' me...
    Nah, cracka, iz u tellinz meee.....
    Dat we wuz Schytian kangz n' sheeeit???

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    LOL man you are a clown

    Scythians = Iranic Tribe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Fake beard color, he dyes his beard red to honor the Prophet Mohammed as many old Muslim men do. This Papua New Guinean freak couldn't pass for Pakistani much less ancient Scythian.
    The man is Kalash idiot and Kalash have the most red hair in planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    LOL man you are a clown

    Scythians = Iranic Tribe
    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    The man is Kalash idiot and Kalash have the most red hair in planet
    Coping.

    His hair is fake.


    Your identity is fake.

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