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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Coping.

    His hair is fake.


    Your identity is fake.
    Kalash are not muslims, they are Pagans like Scythians

    Anyway if the mans beard is bleached the other kalash are not,
    cant be everyone be bleached even the girls

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Kalash are not muslims, they are Pagans like Scythians

    Anyway if the mans beard is bleached the other kalash are not,
    cant be everyone be bleached even the girls
    He's not even Kalash, he's a Pathan and yes his beard is fake:


    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-por...a-4691398.html

    Portrait of a Pathan man with hennaed beard Khyber Pass Pakistan Asia

    Henna is what these people use to color themselves:

    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/hennaed.html


    Yes your pictures are all wrong and fake.

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    Being Scythian-descended myself I've done a lot of research on this subject including reading all of the ancient texts.

    Originally Scythians were a fair pure IE people (Iranid) similar to pure Slavs or Germanics (eg Nordid) but eventually intermarried/merged with Turkic groups to varying degrees upon the Eurasian steppes eg Mongoloid-influenced. The Sarmatians were the first to reflect this being basically the offspring of Turkic women & Scythian men.

    Thus my YDNA haplogroup is associated with the IE migrations of Central-Asia (although R is more common] but as Scythians merged with Khazar invaders -in my case- they took on a Turkic language (although much of the culture was retained although influenced by their conversion to Judaism) until finally assimilating entirely with other Jews to form the Ashkenazi population. Ashkenazi being Hebrew for Scythian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Being Scythian-descended myself I've done a lot of research on this subject including reading all of the ancient texts.

    Originally Scythians were a fair pure IE people (Iranid) similar to pure Slavs or Germanics (eg Nordid) but eventually intermarried/merged with Turkic groups to varying degrees upon the Eurasian steppes eg Mongoloid-influenced. The Sarmatians were the first to reflect this being basically the offspring of Turkic women & Scythian men.

    Thus my YDNA haplogroup is associated with the IE migrations of Central-Asia (although R is more common] but as Scythians merged with Khazar invaders -in my case- they took on a Turkic language (although much of the culture was retained although influenced by their conversion to Judaism) until finally assimilating entirely with other Jews to form the Ashkenazi population. Ashkenazi being Hebrew for Scythian.
    Your Q ydna says story is 180 degrees different. Lol you descend from the Turkic male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    LOL man you are a clown

    Scythians = Iranic Tribe


    Are you trying to say one tribe populated area larger than whole Mongol Empire? That's an amazing discovery... not.

    Just to make it clear for you and other similar imbeciles I'll explain the terms you were using in your post:

    Scythians - term used by Greek historians to describe people living in steppe.

    Iranic tribe - a tribe speaking language belonging to Iranic language family.

    There is no evidence that allows us to associate population of steppe with one specific language group. It is known that steppe nomads who fall under Greek description Scytians were using Iranic and Turkic languages. But it could only be said about those tribes living at the border of steppe and having frequent contacts with non-steppe neighbors. Linguistic developments in steppe's depth will remain mystery forever as nomads had no writing thus no material evidence of their languages could be found.

    So your claim of all Scythians being Iranic tribe is worthy of an illiterate clown. Because they were tribeS speaking variety of languageS most of which we will never know.

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    One thing they all shared in common however, regardless of language is that the majority were light haired and blue eyed, according to the accounts of people stretching from southern Europe to China. The depictions of themselves are also perfectly European in regards to facial features.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    One thing they all shared in common however, regardless of language is that the majority were light haired and blue eyed, according to the accounts of people stretching from southern Europe to China. The depictions of themselves are also perfectly European in regards to facial features.


    Yes and it's confirmed by archaeological evidence, especially burials from early periods. But even later accounts support this. For example some Russian scripts describe physical appearance of Polovtsi (Cumans) as not much different from average Rus. Some Cumans could've blended among Rus perfectly if not for their nomadic clothes, weapons and different language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post


    Are you trying to say one tribe populated area larger than whole Mongol Empire? That's an amazing discovery... not.

    Just to make it clear for you and other similar imbeciles I'll explain the terms you were using in your post:

    Scythians - term used by Greek historians to describe people living in steppe.

    Iranic tribe - a tribe speaking language belonging to Iranic language family.

    There is no evidence that allows us to associate population of steppe with one specific language group. It is known that steppe nomads who fall under Greek description Scytians were using Iranic and Turkic languages. But it could only be said about those tribes living at the border of steppe and having frequent contacts with non-steppe neighbors. Linguistic developments in steppe's depth will remain mystery forever as nomads had no writing thus no material evidence of their languages could be found.

    So your claim of all Scythians being Iranic tribe is worthy of an illiterate clown. Because they were tribeS speaking variety of languageS most of which we will never know.
    Historians say that not me, Scythians were Iranic people and of course they mixed with Mongolians in the steppes.
    The indoeuropean theory is bullshit, from their reconstructions we see that they were something like a mix of Persians and Huns

    They dont look like Proto-Slavs and Nordics.





    They look Persians to me

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    We don't need your shitty Soviet-era artist's impressions, we have the actual Scythians portrayal of themselves right here, they were perfectly European, could pass for Nordic or Slavic either way:



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    Volga Scythian I0247 in Gedrosia K6 calculator:

    http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/ironagedna.shtml

    Iron Age Scythian / Russia / Nadezhdinka, Volga Steppes, Samara [I0247 / SVP 56] / 375-203 calBCE (2220±30 BP) / Y-DNA R1a1a1b2a2a-Z2123 / mtDNA G2a4 / Mathieson 2015; Lazaridis 2016
    GEDmatch kit M348213

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 32.02
    2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.8
    3 Natufian 25.33
    4 East_Asian 12.73
    5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.13


    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Steppe_IA 3.8
    2 Steppe_EMBA 15.62
    3 Steppe_MLBA 17.96
    4 Russian 19.23
    5 Tajik 19.24
    6 Finnish 21.44

    7 Balkar 22.71
    8 Kumyk 23.35
    9 Ukrainian 23.38
    10 Norwegian 24.5
    11 Estonian 24.74
    12 Lezgin 24.76
    13 Hungarian 24.79
    14 Chechen 24.8
    15 Adygei 25.03
    16 Czech 25.12
    17 Europe_LNBA 25.14
    18 Bulgarian 25.31
    19 Romanian 25.46
    20 Scottish 25.48

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93% Steppe_IA + 7% Cypriot @ 2.64
    2 91.9% Steppe_IA + 8.1% Italian_South @ 2.65
    3 91.5% Steppe_IA + 8.5% Greek @ 2.76
    4 90.5% Steppe_IA + 9.5% Adygei @ 2.76
    5 93% Steppe_IA + 7% Georgian @ 2.76
    6 92.8% Steppe_IA + 7.2% Jew_Moroccan @ 2.76
    7 92% Steppe_IA + 8% Sicilian @ 2.76
    8 91.2% Steppe_IA + 8.8% Turkish @ 2.77
    9 91.5% Steppe_IA + 8.5% Armenia_ChL @ 2.78
    10 93.5% Steppe_IA + 6.5% Druze @ 2.78
    11 91.7% Steppe_IA + 8.3% Albanian @ 2.79
    12 89.8% Steppe_IA + 10.2% Balkar @ 2.8
    13 92.4% Steppe_IA + 7.6% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 2.8
    14 97.2% Steppe_IA + 2.8% Levant_N @ 2.81
    15 97.2% Steppe_IA + 2.8% Natufian @ 2.81
    16 94.8% Steppe_IA + 5.2% Levant_BA @ 2.82
    17 93.8% Steppe_IA + 6.2% Jew_iraqi @ 2.82
    18 93.3% Steppe_IA + 6.7% Jew_Tunisian @ 2.82
    19 90.1% Steppe_IA + 9.9% Kumyk @ 2.82
    20 93.6% Steppe_IA + 6.4% Assyrian @ 2.83

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Steppe_IA +50% Steppe_IA @ 3.785751

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Basque +25% EHG +25% Uygur @ 2.748327


    Using 4 populations approximation:

    1 EHG + Europe_LNBA + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.298199

    2 EHG + Icelandic + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.326422
    3 EHG + Norwegian + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.414734
    4 Basque + Croatian + EHG + Uygur @ 1.446162
    5 EHG + Russian + Sardinian + Uzbek @ 1.513816
    6 EHG + Hazara + Icelandic + Sardinian @ 1.515678
    7 EHG + Europe_LNBA + Hazara + Sardinian @ 1.537635
    8 Basque + EHG + Romanian + Uygur @ 1.540908
    9 EHG + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.574349
    10 Basque + EHG + Spanish + Uygur @ 1.591627
    11 EHG + Estonian + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.624266
    12 Basque + EHG + French + Uygur @ 1.638522
    13 EHG + Sardinian + Ukrainian + Uygur @ 1.649824
    14 EHG + Hazara + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 1.662707
    15 Basque + Croatian + EHG + Hazara @ 1.690341
    16 EHG + Hazara + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 1.693482
    17 EHG + French + Spanish + Uygur @ 1.716113
    18 Czech + EHG + Sardinian + Uygur @ 1.751234
    19 EHG + Sardinian + Scottish + Uygur @ 1.751438
    20 EHG + Finnish + Sardinian + Uzbek @ 1.759113

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