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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    How can you claim to be a full-blooded Turk? The guy in your avatar has dark, noodly Grecoo-Italian hair.

    This is what Turks originally looked like:



    Modern Turks are 6/7 native Anatolian and 1/7 Central Asian Turk, and the population adopted the Turkish language.
    You are writing from your ass,Proof your claim

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    I thought it was always a known fact the original Turks were Mongoloid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart View Post
    I thought it was always a known fact the original Turks were Mongoloid.
    Yes, 65% East'Eurasian in known Göktürk Oracles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart View Post
    I thought it was always a known fact the original Turks were Mongoloid.
    You thought wrong. The OP has nothing to do with "mongoloidness" either.

    Quote Originally Posted by meisje View Post
    Yes, 65% East'Eurasian in known Göktürk Oracles
    Göktürks are not representing all Turkic peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzikert View Post
    You thought wrong. The OP has nothing to do with "mongoloidness" either.



    Göktürks are not representing all Turkic peoples.
    They represent early Turkics very well,They are founders of first Turkish State in the world ,How they do not represent Turkics,Oghuz Turks were not around 1500 years ago,Who represents Turks If they do not ,Come to reality,Turkics mixed with Iranics in Central Asia that's why They score high West Asian, Only difference btw.Turk and Türkmen,Turks score East Eurasian btw. 5-15 %, Turkmens 10-30%

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    Quote Originally Posted by meisje View Post
    They represent early Turkics very well,They are founders of first Turkish State in the world ,How they do not represent Turkics,Oghuz Turks were not around 1500 years ago,Who represents Turks If they do not ,Come to reality,Turkics mixed with Iranics in Central Asia that's why They score high West Asian, Only difference btw.Turk and Türkmen,Turks score East Eurasian btw. 5-15 %, Turkmens 10-30%
    Göktürks were a seperate tribe in their own that dominated other Turkic tribes and Central Asia region during the 6th-7th centuries. A göktürk who were living in middle of Mongolia and a Töles under the same empire from south of Urals and east of Caspian Sea or, say a Türgeş from Central Asia were not genetically same. It is normal for a Göktürk in far east to be more East Asian shifted. You can't generelize this to the whole Turkic populations who were spreaded all the way from Eastern Siberia to Eastern Europe during that period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian Mleccha View Post
    Those are Pamiri people, they score up to 25% NE_Euro which is the highest in Central Asia and the Middle East (Except Turkey). They are believed to be one of the only descendants of Scythians, other ethnicities can be included like Yaghnobi people as well, but they are linked to ancient Sogdians.
    Turkey doesn't even remotely score 25% NE European. Pamiri Tajiks are very genetically similar to other Tajiks and Pashtuns. All modern eastern iranics are descendants of Scythians, not just Pamiris. North Indians are descendants as well
    Learn some about Afghans here
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...of-Afghanistan

    Indian Genomics can be modeled by four-way populations, not two way populations. Read more in this thread:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    This is very minor East Eurasian admixture, for modern Turks to be the product of hybridization. We are left with three possibilities:



    1.) Some unknown selection factor eliminated the East Eurasian admixture from the Turkish population, within a few hundred years.

    2.) There was no hybridization between modern Turkish people's ancestors and East Eurasians, only limited interbreeding events, and cross cultural dissemination.

    3.) There was no hybridization between the ancestors of modern Turkish people, and the East Eurasian admixture simply reflects an ancient, prehistoric population structure that existed before the split of East and West Eurasians.

    I am leaning toward possibility #3.
    Not sure why you think 13-18% is minor East Eurasian admixture is minor. East Eurasian is a lot more higher than I though. Despite British colonization of India their genetic impact was 0%. Turkish people have these significant east Eurasian admixture are prove they are significant enough.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Yes. Turkmens are the purest Oghuz Turks and they range between 20 and 40% East Asian.
    The ancient Oghuz originated from Kazakhstan. Anthropology show they were Mongoloid and Mongoloid-Europoid but later became Caucasoid and Mongoloid-Caucasoid after mixing with the Iranic people of Turkmenistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzikert View Post
    Ancestors of the modern day Turks (Oghuz Turks) were likely predominantly Western Eurasian stock. They've been to Western Central Asia and Khorasan region for centuries prior to their arrival to Anatolia. It's possibly why there is not much East Eurasian admix in modern day Turks.
    British didn't give Indians no European admixture either only a few anglo-Indian but genetic impact on Indian population is 0% where as Turkish have a massive enough genetic impact of East Eurasian admixture. You can't say they don't have much east Eurasian admixture because it's impossible the Turkic invaders who were less than 1/3 of Anatolia to make a huge genetic impact besides Turkmen today are mixture of Iranian from 17th century aswell.



    Turkmen East Eurasian admixture depending on the location can be low and high.


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