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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    Well those who are within the 70-80% euro range are not real whites, but mixed race.
    yeah even the white Cubans of Florida on 23andMe, they all have some admixture, which means their grandparents were even more mix race
    keep in mind what helped them get whiter was the large Spanish population that headed to Spain

    which means colonial white cubans are mix race of pred euro heritage, they mixed in with the recent Spanish population and had mix race children classifying themselves as white
    which white Cubans on 23andme range between 80-90% Euro, rarely any pure, the ones who come out pure are those with spanish parents/grandparents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    No way it was never white majority and maybe after Castro it became more mixed race because Castro opened Cuba to Africans as he fought anti Boer white war supporting Blacks in Angola and Zimbabwe.
    This ^

    The rest about Iberia is garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    yeah even the white Cubans of Florida on 23andMe, they all have some admixture, which means their grandparents were even more mix race
    keep in mind what helped them get whiter was the large Spanish population that headed to Spain

    which means colonial white cubans are mix race of pred euro heritage, they mixed in with the recent Spanish population and had mix race children classifying themselves as white
    which white Cubans on 23andme range between 80-90% Euro, rarely any pure, the ones who come out pure are those with spanish parents/grandparents

    I am making charts with latin american results in gedmatch and while a part of your statement is true ("rarely any pure") , most are not scoring between 80-90. Most score between 80-96 with a good quantity over 90% caucasian. Thats very high for latin america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    I am making charts with latin american results in gedmatch and while a part of your statement is true ("rarely any pure") , most are not scoring between 80-90. Most score between 80-96 with a good quantity over 90% caucasian. Thats very high for latin america.
    well of course, like I said they received a large Spanish population, therefore its obvious they will have people scoring around the 90% percentage (every colonial "white" latino mix with recent Euro will be around that range)
    but that will only mean their colonial "white" population was in fact mix race Cubans of pred Euro

    how mix were these people if the average white TODAY is scoring between 80-90%? they were pretty mix, but they were passing themselves as white and probably because they looked European

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    well of course, like I said they received a large Spanish population, therefore its obvious they will have people scoring around the 90% percentage (every colonial "white" latino mix with recent Euro will be around that range)
    but that will only mean their colonial "white" population was in fact mix race Cubans of pred Euro

    how mix were these people if the average white TODAY is scoring between 80-90%? they were pretty mix, but they were passing themselves as white and probably because they looked European
    well yes it is a fact that the recent spanish immigrants "whitened" the white cubans

    I find it interesting that many people think brazil,cuba, puerto rico are very african places when in reality they are highly european.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    yeah even the white Cubans of Florida on 23andMe, they all have some admixture, which means their grandparents were even more mix race
    keep in mind what helped them get whiter was the large Spanish population that headed to Spain

    which means colonial white cubans are mix race of pred euro heritage, they mixed in with the recent Spanish population and had mix race children classifying themselves as white
    which white Cubans on 23andme range between 80-90% Euro, rarely any pure, the ones who come out pure are those with spanish parents/grandparents
    Interesting theory although I think the whitening effect you are talking about happened within a longer period of time. White Cubans with some admixture don't necessarily have grandparents or great grandparents that are more mixed than them. Most people marry within their own social and racial circles. I'm sure that for generations people within the upper 80-90% range have been marrying each other. Spanish immigrants most likely married into "white" families within the 80-90% European range and their kids might have been slightly more European but then those kids turn around and marry other Cubans also within the 80-90% range keeping the admixture among "whites" at pretty much the same levels. So yes, the Spanish migrants of the late 19th and early 20th century did play a role in the overall "whitening" of the population in the sense that they were absorbed into the already existing "white" population increasing their numbers but I don't think they played much of a role in whitening up the blacks and mulatto population.

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    As you know Andy García is a cuban actor and his wife Maria Victoria Lorido is cuban too.
    Here Andy Garcia's family,they are not whites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autrigón View Post
    As you know Andy García is a cuban actor and his wife Maria Victoria Lorido is cuban too.
    Here Andy Garcia's family,they are not whites
    They look like white people to me...

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