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    Default Which race is genetically closest to the chimpanzee?

    Anyone know?

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    Probably anthrocels.
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    Some sources say black west africans closes more, but I don't know if it is true.

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    People from Anthrogenica know:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post109877

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post110053

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post3840635

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd
    Ok folks here is the latest run. I increased the number of markers to around 280/290K, and included some non human primates, Neandertal, Denisova, and more African populations.

    Everything below Kostenki14 is less similar to Chimp than Papuan. I color coded by approximate groupings. Neandertal and Denisova results were a little surprising. Otherwise, the pattern seems to be Pygmy groups, followed by SSA non Pygmies, followed by E Africans.

    SOURCE 1 SOURCE 2 TARGET OUTGROUP DSTAT Z SNPs
    Papuan Gorilla Chimp Macaque -0.4906 -54.27 282911
    Papuan Ancient_Denisova Chimp Macaque -0.3563 -33.1 282899
    Papuan Ancient_Neandertal Chimp Macaque -0.3234 29.08 262329
    Papuan Mbuti Chimp Macaque -0.0777 -11.147 297350
    Papuan Biaka Chimp Macaque -0.0705 -10.858 297350
    Papuan Khomani Chimp Macaque -0.0622 -9.462 297350
    Papuan Ju_hoan_North Chimp Macaque -0.06 -8.48 297349
    Papuan BantuSA Chimp Macaque -0.0461 -7.05 297350
    Papuan Mandenka Chimp Macaque -0.0384 -5.955 297350
    Papuan Esan Chimp Macaque -0.0375 -5.468 297350
    Papuan Yoruba Chimp Macaque -0.0366 -5.782 297350
    Papuan Masai Chimp Macaque -0.029 -4.734 297350
    Papuan Somali Chimp Macaque -0.0181 -2.878 297350
    Papuan Orang Chimp Macaque -0.0102 -1.018 274770
    Papuan Kostenki14 Chimp Macaque -0.0083 -0.702 279223
    Papuan Bougainville Chimp Macaque 0.0013 0.225 297351
    Papuan LaBrana1 Chimp Macaque 0.0017 0.147 280430
    Papuan Ust_Ishim Chimp Macaque 0.0039 0.439 296753
    Papuan MA1 Chimp Macaque 0.0041 0.319 212643
    Papuan Iranian Chimp Macaque 0.0076 1.155 297350
    Papuan BedouinB Chimp Macaque 0.0079 1.174 297350
    Papuan Jordanian Chimp Macaque 0.0082 1.249 297350
    Papuan Makrani Chimp Macaque 0.0094 1.498 297350
    Papuan Turkish Chimp Macaque 0.0108 1.709 297350
    Papuan Dai Chimp Macaque 0.0112 1.701 297350
    Papuan Karitiana Chimp Macaque 0.0112 1.454 297350
    Papuan Balochi Chimp Macaque 0.0119 1.871 297350
    Papuan Punjabi Chimp Macaque 0.012 1.856 297350
    Papuan Saudi Chimp Macaque 0.0124 1.824 297350
    Papuan Karelia_HG Chimp Macaque 0.0126 1.116 286727
    Papuan Ami Chimp Macaque 0.0127 1.813 297350
    Papuan GujaratiD Chimp Macaque 0.0134 1.999 297350
    Papuan Armenian Chimp Macaque 0.0139 2.107 297350
    Papuan Estonian Chimp Macaque 0.0142 2.142 297350
    Papuan English Chimp Macaque 0.0147 2.208 297350
    Papuan Loschbour Chimp Macaque 0.0149 1.492 294807
    Papuan Yamnaya Chimp Macaque 0.0154 1.993 296227
    Papuan Georgian Chimp Macaque 0.0165 2.439 297350
    Papuan Lithuanian Chimp Macaque 0.0172 2.56 297350
    Papuan Stuttgart Chimp Macaque 0.0252 2.707 292696
    Papuan LBK_EN Chimp Macaque 0.0269 3.617 296856
    This is strange by the way.

    All should be equally close to chimpanzees because the common ancestor of all humans split from common ancestor of all chimpanzees at the same time. Probably only actual chimpanzee admixture (or some other very archaic chimpanzee-like admixture) could make some populations genetically closer to them than others?

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    Africans are, altough the distances are very small :


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    So out of modern populations Mbuti Pygmies are closest to chimpanzees and Lithuanians are the least close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post


    This is strange by the way.

    All should be equally close to the chimpanzees because the common ancestor of all humans split from common ancestor of all chimpanzees at the same time. Probably only actual chimpanzee admixture (or some other very chimpanzee-like admixture) could make some population genetically closer to them.
    There is nothing strange, actually. The common ancestors of all humans was still fairly similar genetically to the common ancestors of all chimpanzees. Some human populations have just drifted away from their common ancestor more than the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post

    This is strange by the way.

    All should be equally close to chimpanzees because the common ancestor of all humans split from common ancestor of all chimpanzees at the same time. Probably only actual chimpanzee admixture (or some other very archaic chimpanzee-like admixture) could make some populations genetically closer to them than others?
    No because humans around the world have admixed with other more archaic humans which had varying degrees of closeness to chimps. In Africa there is probably admixture with some yet unknown hominid.
    Also there is genetic drift and evolution (mutations from adaptation) which some populations have had more than others since we became humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado View Post
    Some human populations have just drifted away from their common ancestor more than the others.
    Or some of them mixed with very archaic hominids (a possible explanation suggested by Megalophias):

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post3840635

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    Africans are, altough the distances are very small :

    What is the source of this PCA and which Native American population is closer to Neanderthals than the rest?

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    I found some studies saying any human has the same distance to Chimpz and Bonobos, incorrect methods of analysis that result in wrong conclusions:

    https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/201...-white-humans/

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