Why Greece has state religion? This is year 2017

[Böri]

This isn't secularity, this is freedom of religion. Freedom of religion isn't secularism, even though secularism might include freedom of religion.
And Turkey does fund the mosques (mean, using state money for maintaining them, etc).
Plus, you haven't reply to the rest.
For a ''secular'' country, your state DOES pay religious leaders, your state DOES mention the religion in IDs, your state DOES NOT let Christian Seminaries operate, but does let Islamic seminaries to operate,etc.

Baptism =/= giving name. There is no legal stance on baptism.

I see you give up and now you say: Turkey is like Greece and not secular!
No Girl!
Turkish state doesnt share its state authority with religious organisation out of his control. The state controls religion. An imam cant read to people a sermon he decides himself. Sermons are same everywhere and sent from presidency of religion affair who is under state control. And to maintain mosque Imam says on Friday 'believers we need money for renew door of mosque, and money also raised like this.
Nothing like in Greece where state has no authority on Church. Greek Church has independent relations from Greek state including ties in foreign countries, even ties with Bishopri here in Istanbul. Church decrees marriage, give babies names. An imam cant give official-recognition paper to a couple 'You are married now, no such thing in Turkey. Orthodox Church in Greece is a state inside a state.
Unlike Greece with Mountain Athos under Church control and Church regulates who can enter (WOMEN NOT ALLOWED ENTRANCE THERE)!!! In Turkey no such place state has no authority.
It's why I said 'Greece is Xtian Taliban,
And after all this..You pretend you are Atheist? Lol I believe you.

[wvwvw]

Also in Turkey there's popular awareness and support for the principle of laicism/secularism. I don't know if it is like that in Greece too.

For example here the fans in the stadium are chanting 'Turkey is secular and will remain secular'



Greece might not be a theocracy but in Turkey there are millions of militant secularists...

If Turkey was secular there wouldn't be need for Kemalism to uphold secularism.

Greece doesn't need anything similar to Kemalism because it is a secular country which respects its traditions by upholding Greek Orthodoxity as a state religion. You don't have to be religious to respect a tradition.

[wvwvw]

Unlike Greece with Mountain Athos under Church control and Church regulates who can enter (WOMEN NOT ALLOWED ENTRANCE THERE)!!!

Mt. Athos is a monastic republic like the Vatican City

http://www.civicegypt.org/?p=61845

[Böri]

Mountain Athos: territory controlled regulated by Orthodox Church inside Greece territory. Greek state has no control there and laws of Greek state no worth there.
Church sets law themselves there..Like forbidding the territory to ALL WOMEN



No woman ever can enter land you see there.

[Anthropos]

Secularism is so 90s.

[wvwvw]

You don't have to be religious to respect the traditions, there are plenty of Greek atheists who celebrate Christmas, Easter, baptize their children etc

Richard Dawkins: 'I am a secular Christian'
The prominent scientist and atheist Richard Dawkins admits his nostalgia for religion
Richard Dawkins, the prominent atheist and scientist, has admitted that he is a “secular Christian” because he hankers after the nostalgia and traditions of the church.
Speaking at the Hay Festival, where he was presenting the first volume of his memoirs An Appetite For Wonder, the evolutionary biologist claimed that although he does not believe in the supernatural elements of the Christian church, he still values the ceremonial side of religion.
The author made the comments after being questioned by an American minister in the audience who claimed that he no longer believed in miracles or that Jesus was resurrected, but still considered himself a Christian and preached the teachings of Christ.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/h...Christian.html

[brennus dux gallorum]

The Greek Kingdom was invented and shaped by bavarians, so this among others was not a Greek choice

In a recent research that I saw only a 19% of Greeks consider belonging to orthodox church as necessary for being Greek, not to mention that unlike other ethnicities, Greeks from different churches are considered part of the nation

Anyway, for sure religions such as Islam can't be assimilated into Greek society

[Böri]

The Greek Kingdom was invented and shaped by bavarians, so this among others was not a Greek choice

In a recent research that I saw only a 19% of Greeks consider belonging to orthodox church as necessary for being Greek, not to mention that unlike other ethnicities, Greeks from different churches are considered part of the nation

Anyway, for sure religions such as Islam can't be assimilated into Greek society

Yeah Greek independence and kingdom was Western project, symbol is Greek King must be Germanic race not Helen. Compare with us Turks, Seljuks of Rum, Turkic Anatolian beys, Ottoman family all Turkoman origins LoL. Anyway all of you accept Greece isnt a secular state but state shares its authority with a religious organisation and this religion organisation is independent from Greek state with own laws, own land controlled inside Greece, own independent international relations (like with Archbishops of Istanbul) and Greek state must recognise marriage etc organised by Church. So this means Greek state has no authority on Church but Orthodox Church has authority on Greek state.. so much for secular..

[Kamal900]

Religious schools are cancer.

Agreed. Infact, all religions are cancer especially the Abrahamic ones.

[Inquizzzitor]

''The Greek Orthodox Church, a member of the Eastern Orthodox Communion, is accorded the status of "prevailing religion" in Greece's constitution, and Greece is the only country in the world where an Eastern Orthodox Church is clearly recognized as a state religion. Since 1850, Greek Orthodoxy within Greece is handled by the Church of Greece.''
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Why is your country still ruled by clerical class and bearded archbishops in black always in state ceremony?

Why do give a fuck, Turk? Mind your own business. And hand back Hagia Sophia.