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    A civil war and crimes always sad. They will do the same thing to Turkey with referandum, presidency system and strengthening local authorities.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    A civil war and crimes always sad. They will do the same thing to Turkey with referandum, presidency system and strengthening local authorities.




    What? You sound like Serb Chetniks.

    First of all, there was no civil war, independent states waged war against each other.

    Second, the situations are not comparable, Yugoslavia had 6 republics and 6 nations, Turkey has 1 republic and 1 nation (if we ignore the 15% Kurds).
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    What? You sound like Serb Chetniks.

    First of all, there was no civil war, independent states waged war against each other.

    Second, the situations are not comparable, Yugoslavia had 6 republics and 6 nations, Turkey has 1 republic and 1 nation (if we ignore the 15% Kurds).
    + 5 Million Bosniaks and 5 Million Albanians, Turks aren't really such a big majority in Turkey.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    What? You sound like Serb Chetniks.

    First of all, there was no civil war, independent states waged war against each other.

    Second, the situations are not comparable, Yugoslavia had 6 republics and 6 nations, Turkey has 1 republic and 1 nation (if we ignore the 15% Kurds).
    We are right now heading for a federal system. Foreign language classes are preparations İ guess. Also a bit why I am opposed and angry in the other thread. Your idol Erdogan loves federal system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    + 5 Million Bosniaks and 5 Million Albanians, Turks aren't really such a big majority in Turkey.
    2,5 million Bosniaks (most are Sanjakians so faked Serbs) and 1,5 millon Albos. Your conclusion is somewhat correct tho man.

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    Shame such a great federation was destroyed in a bloodbath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    We are right now heading for a federal system. Foreign language classes are preparations İ guess. Also a bit why I am opposed and angry in the other thread. Your idol Erdogan loves federal system.


    2,5 million Bosniaks (most are Sanjakians so faked Serbs) and 1,5 millon Albos. Your conclusion is somewhat correct tho man.
    Yes, but the relations and circumstances can't even be compared. People in ex-Yugoslavia hated each other, came from 3 different religions (Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim), were historically oriented towards 3 different civilizations (Western Europe, Russia and Muslim World), waged war for over 1000 years, etc.

    People in Turkey are of the same religion, speak Turkish, are Turkish patriots, etc. There are no separatists movements by Bosniaks, Albanians, Circassians, Georgians, or anyone, while separatists movements in ex-Yugoslavia are 200 years old (since early 19th century).

    Seriously, you worry too much, the idea of Bosniaks trying to separate from Turkey is crazy to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    Yes, but the relations and circumstances can't even be compared. People in ex-Yugoslavia hated each other, came from 3 different religions (Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim), were historically oriented towards 3 different civilizations (Western Europe, Russia and Muslim World), waged war for over 1000 years, etc.

    People in Turkey are of the same religion, speak Turkish, are Turkish patriots, etc. There are no separatists movements by Bosniaks, Albanians, Circassians, Georgians, or anyone, while separatists movements in ex-Yugoslavia are 200 years old (since early 19th century).

    Seriously, you worry too much, the idea of Bosniaks trying to separate from Turkey is crazy to me.
    Kurds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Shame such a great federation was destroyed in a bloodbath.
    It wasn't really great, Yugoslavia was unnatural state. Just read my previous comment, 3 religions, 3 civilizations, it was destined to fail.

    Very different than Turkey, which has 1 major religion and 1 culture (with some small subcultures).
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Kurds?
    Yup, they're the only ones who are obviously a serious threat to Turkey.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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