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    Eurosceptic since I'm generally against excessive centralization. I think the single currency adoption should have never happened and it's a big reason why the EU is in the bind that it's in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado View Post
    They are absolutely founded. The German government is straight up leeching off of the other economies in the EU. The people of Germany are being fed lies and propaganda, most of the ones who are informed about this issue are disgusted by it because this kind of behaviour goes against their mentality.
    I remember my dad making the half-joking comment that the Germans always wanted control of Europe, and now they got what they wished for (at a price).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazik View Post
    Anti, like most people here. In the referendum back then it was close to 50-50, but a lot of people regret their choice. EU had the biggest support by older people, and many of them are dead by now.

    In my electoral district 93% were against it
    I don't know about Sweden, but in the UK, most voters in favour of Brexit were retired people, living in the countryside or in little towns, whereas pro-EU were mostly young, urban and educated. Several tudies in different EU-countries have shown that the educated masses tend to support the EU.

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    It needs to be reformed and cultural marxists must be removed from power, but the EU is probably the best thing which has happened to this continent in centuries. Both for the average Joe and businesses. No great wars happened on European soil for nearly three quarters of century, there is one massive market covering the entirety of the continent with movement of good, peoples and ideas.

    Only a fool with no knowledge of history would want the days of Franco-German wars back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    I don't know about Sweden, but in the UK, most voters in favour of Brexit were retired people, living in the countryside or in little towns, whereas pro-EU were mostly young, urban and educated. Several tudies in different EU-countries have shown that the educated masses tend to support the EU.
    Old people were the most favour of EU here, because they thought it was a peace project. They remembered the WW2 and the cold war and wanted the European nations to come closer together.

    For me it doesn't matter if educated people are the most pro-EU. Because, as you know, every citizen has just one vote each, no matter if you are a factory worker or a professor.
    Last edited by Mazik; 03-30-2017 at 03:59 AM.

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    You can have free trade and free movement without central banks and financial institutions dictating terms.

    The organisations that make big decisions are not even elected by the people so its not even democratic, nor is it a republican system. It is opportunistic system for usurers to prey on the weak to artificially deflate currency exchange to make exports more attractive. It is a highly propagandistic and manipulative system. Banks and financial systems in the E.U can not lose... where the whole place needs a good ol' Lehmen event to cleanse the trash of this stench
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    The support is surprisingly higher considering the general atmosphere in this forum.

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    A speech that makes sense: Esteban González Pons (Spanish Popular Party - Conservative) at the European Parliament.



    “Europe is not a market, it is the will to live together. Leaving Europe is not leaving a market, it is leaving shared dreams. We can have a common market, but if we do not have common dreams, we have nothing. Europe is the peace that came after the disaster of war. Europe is the pardon between French and Germans. Europe is the return to freedom of Greece, Spain and Portugal. Europe is the fall of the Berlin Wall. Europe is the end of communism. Europe is the welfare state, it is democracy,”

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    Europe a Democracy I have hard it all - so which Greek voted for Schauble, Djisebloom so they can dictate terms?
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    Im against all Globalist organizations:

    UN, EU, NATO, etc, etc.

    if you want to know the origins and future of EU read this:

    http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2015/02/i...an-europa.html

    (just keep in mind that the social values have changed because of the counter revolution of 1960s).

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    Pro european unity, but the EU itself has to be reformed from ground up. Right now it's inefficient and blatantly incompetent of managing the bulk of the First World. I believe it is so by design, so the current regime has to be forcefully replaced with more suitable, either democratically elected, or atleast qualified visionaries, willing to secure the existence of European People and a future for european children.

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