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    Default Story of Crusades: How Christians took the cross

    Here a good documentary for beginners. In past the Western sources diminished the key role of Seljuk Turks in crusades (even movie like Kingdom of Heaven). After our calls and teaching people, now Westerners started to explain the correct history. Very good documentary here showing how Turks triggered the event changing course of Xtianity and the whole world.



    Good explanation how balance in Andalus/Spain, Sicily and Levant-Anatolia borders was broken by Turks.

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    You are talking complete and utter bollocks. Spain, Italy, Southern France, Austria and even Ireland were all invaded by Muslims who inflicted systematic genocide on the indigenous Christian European populations and drove them the out of their own lands and occupied them. Since when have these places been Muslim or Arab lands. The Muslims and Arabs never belonged there and since when have foreign invaders had the right to occupy someone else's rightful land by driving them out of their homes or turning them into slaves. Look at the genocide the Muslims of Kosovo and Bosnia inflicted on the Serbs. Where did these Muslims come from in the first place when these lands were all Christian. Through systematic genocide and forced conversions of Serbs under the threat of death and when the Muslims started terrorising the indigenous Christian Serbs in order to drive them out completely what did you expect the reaction would be. Who do you think inflicted slavery on the Africans. It wasn't the Europeans but the Muslims who started the slave trade.

    Similarily, the Byzantines were all Christians and were subjected to systematic slavery in their own lands simply because they were Christians. When did the Christians enslave the Muslims. Never. The Christians never lifted a finger against the Muslims until Europe was repeatedly attacked and Christians were enslaved.

    When did the Christians institute a systematic genocide against other Christians in Christian lands because of their religion. Learn to distinguish European politics that had nothing to do with religion from the systematic discrimination, mass murder, rape, slavery and genocide perpetrated by the Ottomans against Christians in Christian lands based on religion alone. The Turks are still guilty of systematic rape, mass murder, slavery, annihilation of arts, sciences and culture, religious persecution and discrimination and genocide.

    Under Byzantine rule people had the freedom to elect their own leaders and stand for election. Not so under the Turks. Under Byzantine rule the people had the right to serve in the army and advance through the ranks to the position of emperor. Not so under the Turks. Under Byzantine rule the
    people had the right the educate themselves in their own language and culture. Not so under the Turks where the only way the Christians could educate their children was in secret underground schools. Arts and sciences were wiped out by the Turks whereas the flourished under the Byzantines. Under Byzantine rule the Greeks were free to own, buy and sell land and to trade and sail the seas. All of this was denied to them by the Turks who enslaved and persecuted them in order to exterminate them. Millions of Greeks were systematically massacred year after year without end because they wanted to be free. Nowhere in western Europe was a genocide like this perpetrad. Not in France which was invaded by the English. Not in Portugal which was invaded by the Spanish. Not even in the Latin America where the Europeans gave the natives equal rights or in India.

    The crusaders were driven by greed not religion. When did they enslave other Christians and make them second class citizens. Never. The indigenous populations of Latin America are all still there. When the Ottomans invaded Cyprus Greek Orthodox Christians has exactly the same rights as the Venetians and could hold any position in the government or military they wanted and had the right to property and to do business all of which they were denied by the Turks.

    Where are the Christians left in Egypt. EXTERMINATED is where they are. Over 200,000 Greeks inhabited Alexandria until Nassar expelled them all and what about those that were living in Egypt and the Middle East before Mohammed. All gone through systematic genocide. Where are the churches in Saudi Arabia?

    The Turks BUTCHERD the Greeks and every Christian in Anatolia. They destroyed the Byzantine civilisation and subjected Christians to systematic GENOCIDE including CHILD KIDNAPPING AND MOLESTATION AND RAPE and SLAVERY. There can NEVER be peace with the Turks until they recognise their crime like the NAZI's. Civilised nations would admit to their crimes of Genocide as like Germany and apologise, repent. Turkey has NEVER recognized its crimes against humanity.

    The Turks through Islam and Kemalism glorify barbaric savagery and that is why they have no respect for human rights or international law. Back in 1979 the Turks of Germany composed a song about Genghis Khan the butcher of millions and destroyer of civilisations which was entered into the Eurovision Song Contest. The Turkish mentality to worship barbarism has still not changed. The song is an example of the Turkish barbarism of 1974 and the one about Genghis Khan shows that it continues to this day.

    Why would anyone but a barbarian or a lunatic write a song praising Genghis Khan? Contrast that with Greek civilization. Read the Iliad as you will see that it does not glorify the Trojan War and in fact does the opposite and discourages war. On the contrary the Turks glorify the savage atrocities of Genghis Khan as something to be aspired to.

    The Turks perpetuated a crime against humanity which is out of all proportion to the Crusades. The forcible transfer of children from one community to another is defined as genocide by the international convention and is mass extermination which is what the Turks did the Greeks and Armenians and other Balkan populations. The Turks must pay for the crimes and be punished until they recognise them.

    Abraham Lincoln condemned Slavery and abolished it after the American Civil War. Americe reconised is crimes Turkey must be treated and an international pariah until it recognises it crimes against humanity. The red Indians were given land and reservations and now most of them are millionaires. The Blacks were given US citizenship.

    Turkey as a member which is violating over 300 UN resolutions more than any other state in the world, and is the ONLY country in the world to violate the judgments of the European Court of Humans Rights by is refusing to pay damages awarded to its victims in Cyprus and allow
    them back to their homes.

    The Turks EXTERMINATED over 6,000,000 Christians in Asia-Minor who made up over 60% of the population. That is a larger proportion of the population and a lager figure than even Hitler's genocide of the Jews. Hitler is known to have publicly stated "No one remembers the Genocide perpetuated by the Turks against the Armenians" in response to being asked about his campaign against the Jews. Hitler was taken as a source by the Nuremberg trials. Turks because they never punished they repeated them multiple times.

    Ottomans and Young Turks were both the same, GENOCIDAL BUTCHERS who used Islam to drive their people to EXTERMINATE over 6 million Christians. The Young Turks and the Ottomans are the SAME people with the same SAVAGE BARBARIC mentality. When the Ottomans captured Famagusta they MASSACRED 80,000 Civilians in the streets. The Turks MASSACRED over 500,000 Pontians Greeks, 1.5 million Armenians, and 300,000 Greeks from Smyrna and 800,000 more from Thraces, Constantinople and the coast of Asia Minor. These were not crimes of Stalin but crimes of the TURKS, the SAME people that live in Turkey today..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post

    Where are the Christians left in Egypt. EXTERMINATED is where they are. Over 200,000 Greeks inhabited Alexandria until Nassar expelled them all and what about those that were living in Egypt and the Middle East before Mohammed. All gone through systematic genocide. Where are the churches in Saudi Arabia?
    what are you talking about? any proof of what you have just said?

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    Part 2 just uploaded recently with Antioch and Jerusalem

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