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    Quote Originally Posted by Ded Mazai View Post
    the whole apricity
    Sure sure. Rakhmat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Sure sure. Rakhmat.



    well, ask the same question Loki

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    Kurdistan is taking Azeri land in that map. Northern Iranians are mostly ethnic Persian and Azeri, not mostly Kurdish.
    Learn some about Afghans here
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...of-Afghanistan

    Indian Genomics can be modeled by four-way populations, not two way populations. Read more in this thread:
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    an Assyrian country would be an dream

    they are one of the oldest people in that region, and one the most persecuted

    they have the rights to have their own country

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    European did dominate most of the world after WWI.
    I was talking about Middle Ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post


    Perhaps it would be like this.
    "For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'." - John Greenleaf Whittier

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    No Turkic migrations = at least everything from Morocco to Afghanistan big Isislandia
    No Turkic Migrations = no Khazars = Constantinople falls before 10th century = Islam much more widespread than it is today (not some pockets in the Balkans but the bulk of Eastern Europe)
    No Turkic migrations = no Turkic religious, ethnic and cultural tolerance/indifference = no Turco-Persian tradition and Sufism which replaced hardcore Islam = no Persians, no Armenians, no Greeks, no Kurds, no Georgians and many others, just like today's 'Egyptian' Arabs and 'Lebanese' Arabs.

    Be careful what you wish

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    Busted. Bosniensis disliked your post because Turkey is too small. Bosniaks are the Balkan's Filipinos. Grateful to Turkey for bringing them their religion, whereas the Pinoy is grateful to Spain for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaglakar View Post
    no Turco-Persian tradition and Sufism which replaced hardcore Islam = no Persians, no Armenians, no Greeks, no Kurds, no Georgians and many others, just like today's 'Egyptian' Arabs and 'Lebanese' Arabs.

    Be careful what you wish
    Samanid Persians (south Central Asia after Umayyads) weren't Sufis. They had Arab ideology. Their missionaries converted Turks.
    There is no Turco-Persian tradition in religion, that's just in Seljuk, Gazhnavid, Turkmen Khwarezmian state system.
    Religion can't change, that's stable system.

    Persians are religiously much into it.
    Turks were always more liberal due to lifestyle and genetics.

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    Middle East would not have been fractured like this. If you see through historical developement of the region, you would see big empires covering most of it. Anatolia is usually battlefield between Middle East and Balkan empires. Several Middle East balkanization periods are results of foreign interventions, including current one. So instead of arabs/turks there would have been just another middle eastern empire, persian most likely, or middle east would have been consumed by pan-balkan entity.
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