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Next time read the Lemma on Diagoras of Milos before you post...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagoras_of_Melos
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Jews as an Ethnic group are not defined by borders the Jewish tradition is the most ancient tradition still on Earth and it has the fact that it changes here and there only shows it has evolved yet has still the same core.
Look where their nations are going, it's only proving my point.
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In my humble opinion, Europe without Arab and Turkish incursions, would be able to effectively deal with rebellious Popes, and eventually would've dominated the whole of Middle East, and perhaps the World.
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