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    Quote Originally Posted by UkrainianGirl View Post
    Doesn't matter. They are 3 in 1 God as my verses stated. I used scripture I don't care much for the math part.
    I just wanna know 1 thing and i'm over this debate between islam and christianty .. when Jesus got killed on that cross , who controlled the universe? he and the father and the holy spirit are one , right? then when he died the other 2 also died right? then who controlled the universe ? a bot? rofl

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    It's easier to put all the water of all the oceans in a little hole made on the sand of the beach than to understand the mystery of the holly trinity..

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    And watch out with the false profets that will come in the future.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    I just wanna know 1 thing and i'm over this debate between islam and christianty .. when Jesus got killed on that cross , who controlled the universe? he and the father and the holy spirit are one , right? then when he died the other 2 also died right? then who controlled the universe ? a bot? rofl
    No, He simply left human form body. God's true form is Spirit. He does not need a body. "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24. So He died in human body which is nothing to God really dying for real. Jesus was always in spirit form before coming to Earth anyway. Then after 3 days He came back to human form to complete the prophesy that He will resurrect in 3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    I just wanna know 1 thing and i'm over this debate between islam and christianty .. when Jesus got killed on that cross , who controlled the universe? he and the father and the holy spirit are one , right? then when he died the other 2 also died right? then who controlled the universe ? a bot? rofl
    Muslims always surprise me on how ignorant they are of the concept of the trinity and the Bible let alone the gospels as a whole. To be able to believe in Islam after reading both the Bible and the Quran, one must be completely ignorant of what is known about the NT and the historicity of Jesus. To believe claims coming from one man without witnesses (the claim of prophethood and revelation) proves how easily people can be fooled with the right tactics and careful use of older sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppean snek View Post
    So you admit Jesus is human..then you say we must still worship him as God? I am having a hard time following.

    I understand the idea is that Jesus is both God and Human, but if he is Human to begin with, why should we call him God? Was it ever said that the Messiah would be God himself as a human? I don't think so, in fact the idea of a human claiming to be God is called idolatry.
    God is love and Jesus is the personification of love, so that each of us might have a role model to compare ourselves to. This is why he said, "I AM the way, I AM the truth, and I AM the life. No man can come to God but through me. If you replace I AM and ME with LOVE IS ... you get ...

    LOVE is the WAY
    LOVE is the TRUTH
    LOVE is the LIFE.
    No one comes unto GOD
    unless they know how to LOVE


    Christ had become LOVE WALKING AND TALKING ON THE PLANET. One cannot understand God until one understands and WALKS AND TALKS in the ways of LOVE. If you walk in Love, you will always understand God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UkrainianGirl View Post
    No, He simply left human form body. God's true form is Spirit. He does not need a body. "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24. So He died in human body which is nothing to God really dying for real. Jesus was always in spirit form before coming to Earth anyway. Then after 3 days He came back to human form to complete the prophesy that He will resurrect in 3 days.
    ok i got you .. so he didn't really die , he just left the human form body .. so the 3 were alive.

    ok now you mentioned something interesting
    "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:24

    then when they worship him in an icon way of his human body ? i mean they spread photos of him (as they say) in churches and everywhere .. why can't they worship him in non visible way as this verse mention john 4:24 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessio View Post
    Muslims always surprise me on how ignorant they are of the concept of the trinity and the bible let alone the gospels as a whole.
    Why? Is it something you often discuss with the moroccans in netherlands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin von Ossetien View Post
    Why? Is it something you often discuss with the moroccans in netherlands?
    No not on a regular basis. I have had some good conversations and discussions about Islam with Muslims though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessio View Post
    No not on a regular basis. I have had some good conversations and discussions about Islam with Muslims though.
    Are those muslims in Holland really religious or just "cultural muslims"?

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