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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    What are you referring to, specifically? The way they are still running an empire but have to lie about their true intentions?

    I wish they'd be more honest about it, but they backed themselves into a corner with the international law that they wrote, meaning they basically have to lie so as not to admit that they are breaking it by acting as the aggressor, and create pretexts for action by dishonest means.
    Things like meddling in other countries' affairs; regime change, sanctions, etc. Along with this comes a huge dose of hypocrisy, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Really. Every day when I read the news, I become more ashamed to be a Western European. It is sickening. There is no way I can support European and American foreign policy. What is wrong with us??!

    Things like meddling in other countries' affairs; regime change, sanctions, etc. Along with this comes a huge dose of hypocrisy, too.
    1) All of the "affairs,regime changes, sanctions etc" victims can blame only themselves for this
    2) Some global project is going on for the last couple of centuries, for the purpose of changing the world, where different from west ways of rule must be changed, whether by force or gradual transformation with cultural influence

    So everything's OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post
    1) All of the "affairs,regime changes, sanctions etc" victims can blame only themselves for this
    2) Some global project is going on for the last couple of centuries, for the purpose of changing the world, where different from west ways of rule must be changed, whether by force or gradual transformation with cultural influence

    So everything's OK.
    Who made the US/EU the policemen of the world? They act as judge, jury and executioner. But you will see, some won't just take it lying down in the future. If you want war, you'll probably get it.

    As an example, see what a fuck-up the West made in Libya. When it came to Syria, Russia said: that's enough.
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    Your politicians are the manifestation of your own sins. The same goes for me, my government is my sin, the more they try to represent my interests the more I feel guilty of their lies. However you are embarassed by their corruption, you must not consider yourself better than them, I obey this principle as a civilian critic.

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    They aren't doing anything wrong , if i were a biggoted money obsessed psychopath i would do the same. Especially when my people are indoctrinated to the same lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    Your politicians are the manifestation of your own sins. The same goes for me, my government is my sin, the more they try to represent my interests the more I feel guilty of their lies. However you are embarassed by their corruption, you must not consider yourself better than them, I obey this principle as a civilian critic.
    I didn't vote for these politicians. And sadly, most people who do don't really know what they are voting for. They just follow the mass media like sheep, without thinking for themselves and really analyzing scenarios.

    Your country's politicians (China) are better than ours. The Communist Party has long-term plans, and they work for the best of your nation. But ours are only in power for short periods, and they pursue self-interest, and peddle lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I didn't vote for these politicians. And sadly, most people who do don't really know what they are voting for. They just follow the mass media like sheep, without thinking for themselves and really analyzing scenarios.

    Your country's politicians (China) are better than ours. The Communist Party has long-term plans, and they work for the best of your nation. But ours are only in power for short periods, and they pursue self-interest, and peddle lies.
    They have no long term plan, but crazy plans that cost common future for their own self-grandeur, there is a catch term for chinese bureaucracy called-Jia Da Kong, means Fake, grandeur, vanity. Our bureaucracy is not immune of all the problems of western politics, I would like to consider other reason for western fascination of chinese government like you, western civilians are opened to endless political rivalry, people are weary of their debates, their failure in keeping promises, maybe some people want a charismatic personality to end all of these. Whatever system people want, it is a scientific reality, neutral in nature.

    I changed my mind about blaming stupid people when I discovered that people are essentially the same in world as being sheeple for their leaderships. We are also a part of the political problem ever since we want to prove we are better than the others by criticizing reality, all politicians talk about equality before they attain power, so what we want is exactly what people want, we have to accept that what our politicians do is also a part of our desire. To solve political debate is to allocate responsibility as just as possible, all imperfection comes from irresponsibility which can come down to everyone. People love imperfection as much as they love perfection, we can change nothing or we should not change anything but to accept it more and more, why we talk after all? Because it is the art of talking, lets break down politics into civilian developments in culture and science. The only way to become a better politician is to become a better citizen, all politicians are the same.

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    It's Jewry, and I'm not even joking or anything.

    The Zionist lobby is strong in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoppean snek View Post
    It's Jewry, and I'm not even joking or anything.

    The Zionist lobby is strong in the West.
    A bit of a broad catch-all, don't you think? I think it's more complicated than that.
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