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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    Yes you can and it's reasonable. Muslims are the single greatest threat to the west. Why can't they?
    But are they though ?

    If anything I'm more wary of the parasitic jewish menace, than low iq muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Photo of woman defying EDL protester in Birmingham goes viral



    A photograph showing a young woman smiling bemusedly at an incensed English Defence League protester has been widely shared as a symbol of Birmingham’s defiance in the face of the far right.

    The image, which has been shared thousands of times on social media, was captured during a demonstration by the far-right group in Birmingham city centre on Saturday. It shows a man, wearing an EDL T-shirt, staring into the eyes of the young woman, who is looking back at him unfazed. A police officer appears to be restraining the man.

    The woman pictured has been identified as Saffiyah Khan, a Birmingham resident. She told the BBC that when the picture was taken, she had stepped forward to defend a woman wearing a hijab who had been surrounded by a group of men.

    “I don’t like seeing people getting ganged up on in my town,” Khan said. She added that she was “quite surprised” by the reaction to the photo.

    The EDL demonstration attracted around 100 people, and was condemned by Labour, Liberal Democrat and Conservative leaders of Birmingham city council, who said the group was not and never would be welcome in their city.

    The demonstration saw a heavy police presence, including riot vans. West Midlands police said two people, thought to be counter-protesters, had been arrested for alleged breaches of the peace.
    I thought she would be a good looking woman judging from that profile shot. Seems I was wrong, disgusting looking white people hating SJW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vonneauman View Post
    Look, I am no fan of Islamic presence in Europe or North America, but I do NOT consider the enemy of my enemy to be my friend. I no more trust you Whites (both Europeans and New Worlders) or other ethnic groups than I do those Islamic scum.

    I will stay neutral on the sidelines and LMAO. When European civil war breaks out, those Pakistani street gangs will prevail. Even 4 four undersized Pakis will stand up to 10 fat EDL limey hooligans. Now imagine what would happen to you frogs or a bunch of Aprician Euro queers.

    We all know what shall happen. The Pakis shall run out of social security money and they shall start eating cats and dogs, even pigs to survive.

    Meanwhile you haven't yet realized what caused the superiority of the Europeans in the battlefield:

    http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com...sofsweden.aspx

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    The genius of Sweden’s ‘Lion of the North’
    The genius of Sweden’s ‘Lion of the North’
    by Steve Wilson

    In the skies over a modern battlefield a joint tactical air control team is often credited for carrying their platoon’s “big gun,” or radio, as devastating airstrikes are vectored in from aircraft loitering in the battle space where friendly forces are taking fire.

    Laser guided munitions, global positioning systems, joint direct attack munition technology and real-time communications make it possible for military units to shape the battlefield to their advantage.

    However, coordinated efforts on an ever changing fluid battle space aren’t new concepts. In fact, credit for this military innovation, and several others, belongs to Gustavus II Adolphus, King of Sweden, whose reign lasted from October 12, 1617 until his death in battle, Nov. 6, 1632.

    The Innovations

    The period of warfare before Adolphus’ time lacked what in today’s terms could be called strategic thinking. Granted, there were great generals and great battles, several of which changed the known world. But, until gunpowder began to see widespread use, armies were marched directly toward an opposing force, drawn in parallel lines and the order of battle tended to consist of: archers, followed by the heavy infantry that hurled javelins as the masses continued to creep toward each other until finally the armies were in sword, hammer or pike range.

    The only real fluid part of a battle space prior to gunpowder was the cavalry, which were usually concentrated on the flanks and, when possible, charged the enemy’s extreme left or right and hoped to collapse the opposition around itself.

    As gunpowder began to see common and widespread use on the battlefield, Gustavus Adolphus was the first to shed old tactics and status-quo thinking.

    In Adolphus’ time, firearms were just beginning to make their way into the hands of both heavy infantry and cavalry.

    Another relatively new invention, gunpowder propelled artillery, changed the scope of the battlefield by shifting the range at which armies could engage one another as well as a constant need for specialized war material – chiefly powder and shot.

    Armies could no longer move quickly and largely rely on foraging for raw materials to construct siege and artillery equipment.

    But, until the new-age thinking of Gustavus Adolphus, the technology had changed but tactics and strategy had not.

    Warfare, around the time of the Thirty Years War, was on the cusp of becoming more specialized and calculated, rather than an affair where two huge forces collided and the winner was decided by large amounts of courage and the ability to deal harsher blows about the head and shoulders to the enemy.

    It was during this period of time in military history that Gustavus Adolphus would shatter the old school system of waging war.

    Prior to Adolphus emerging on the scene as a battlefield innovator, European armies largely conscripted soldiers or employed large numbers of mercenaries just before marching to their objective. After the war, these conscripts and soldiers for hire were quickly mustered out of the army until politics demanded the nation fight another battle.

    Gustavus Adolphus threw a wrench in 1600s European thinking by having a regular standing army that was well-trained, regularly drilled, armed with fine weaponry and were paid on time.

    He also redesigned his army to take advantage of newly acquired mobility that was afforded to him by the emerging innovation of gunpowder and modern firearms. While the European army model largely consisted of forming squares or, even older, lines of phalanxes several soldiers deep of mixed musketeers and pikemen, Adolphus formed whole regiments solely of musketeers.

    He also adopted a new, lighter musket, thus eliminating the need for the gunner or an assistant to carry a forked pole to rest the firearm on.

    He made paper cartridges standard in his army.

    He also drilled his men in the concept of rolling volley fire.

    This innovation was a regiment of musketeers, usually six lines deep that closed to three before engaging the enemy.

    The first rank would kneel the second would crouch and the third rank would stand all firing simultaneously.

    The rate of fire Adolphus was able to maintain on a battlefield surpassed other armies of the time largely because the Swedish king reduced the traditional European manual of arms from 160 movements for firing and reloading to 95.

    Adolphus disregarded the big, cumbersome cannons favored by many leaders of his day and opted for lighter and maneuverable field-pieces that could be quickly moved to give fire where his infantry needed support at a particular time.

    This is a stark contrast to other European army models of the day, who fought in dense, slow maneuvering masses and tended to try to win a battle by numbers and brute force alone.

    In this way, he ensured his portion of the battle space was not rendered static and motionless by fixing big artillery pieces in one spot that could not be maneuvered to support the foot soldiers.

    Another innovation was a concept that today is dubbed “combined arms,” although in the 1620s the term didn’t exist. Gustavus Adolphus disregarded traditional pike squares common in European formations of the time and instead incorporated a thin pike wall in with his musketeer formations.

    This innovation featured one pike for every few muskets, which was enough to keep enemy cavalry from decimating the infantry but still leaving the Swedish formation plenty of firepower to engage the enemy. Adolphus used this tactic until 1631, when he formed entire regiments comprised of nothing but musketeers.

    The Swedish king also developed what today we call “cross-training.”

    Infantry and cavalry units alike were trained to fire artillery. His pikemen could pick up a musketeer’s weapon, load and fire it if need be. Artillery and infantry soldiers were all trained to ride, should the battlefield occasion demand it.

    In doing this, King Gustavus Adolphus ensured sub-unit integrity and unit cohesion throughout his army. The cavalry were not elevated above the infantry; rather, every soldier was cross-trained into other specialties to make for maximum efficiency on a fluid battlefield.

    While King Gustavus Adolphus can be given scores of credit for innovation and forward thinking, the real measure of any commander is results in battle. This begs the question, how well did this new mode of combined arms work on early 17th-century battlefields? We will examine his most important battle.

    The Results of Adolphus’ Innovations: The Battle of Breitenfield

    Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden entered the Thirty Years War allied with the Protestant cause. He established lines of communication and supply with his native Sweden and moved across the Baltic Sea and into the heart of Europe in 1630.

    Adolphus, trained in statesmanship all his life before assuming the throne, began to build alliances, recruit more soldiers to the Protestant cause and secure his lines as he moved toward Saxony. He met his chief rival, Johann Tserclaes, Count of Tilly and commander of the Catholic League’s armies, on September 17, 1631.

    King Adolphus deployed his force in conjunction with his new and innovative strategy of stressing attack over defense and mobility over static lines.

    He mixed his force of light and heavy infantry, dispersed with his pikemen throughout the formation to provide defense against enemy cavalry. He also deployed his light, nimble artillery consisting of three-pounder guns with his infantry instead of the old tactic of placing the infantry in front of heavy, difficult to move cannon.

    In this, he assured the cannon could directly support the infantry and be quickly moved where supporting fire was needed most along an ever changing and fluid front.

    The Count of Tilly’s forces were deployed in a typical European, and largely static, formations.

    The troops were packed together in tight squares and were mostly heavy infantry armed with pikes. The Catholic League’s forces did have musketeers, but these were either placed in the corners of the formation squares or largely on one side. Thus, shifting fire from one direction to another involved a slow and cumbersome series of movements.

    This formation did not, unlike the Swedes, incorporate supporting artillery directly with the infantry.

    Both armies had cavalry units.

    The Count of Tilly’s forces were trained to ride toward the enemy, fire cumbersome and short range pistols in a maneuver called the caracole, in which the rider closed to firing range and executed a half turn and fired one pistol, then executed another half turn in the opposite direction and fired his second pistol.

    After this volley the rider would canter tow the back of the formation to reload and fire again.

    However, this tactic would be hard pressed to work under constant repeating volley fire from Adolphus’ formations.

    The Swedish cavalry still relied on the age-old tactic of riding at a full gallop and engaging the enemy with the saber; however, Gustavus Adolphus had trained his musketeers to provide fire support to the cavalry prior to a charge when at all possible.

    When the two forces met, the Catholic League’s army was deployed into 17 dense square formations with the heavy cannon placed in the front.

    King Gustavus Adolphus’ forces were deployed in two lines, with the bulk of their cavalry on the right side.

    The two armies began with an exchange of artillery fire and it was soon obvious the Swedish gunners could achieve a far superior rate of fire with their light, three-pound guns.

    The Catholic League forces cavalry charged the Swedish lines a total of six times, but each time was stopped by the combination of musket and cannon fire from Adolphus’ forces. Finally, after the seventh and final charge by County Tilly’s cavalry was beaten back yet again by the Swedes, King Gustavus Adolphus released his own cavalry against the enemy.

    The already weakened Catholic League cavalry units were driven from the field by Adolphus’ cavalry and retreated 15 miles from the battlefield.

    Seeing the Swedish cavalry leave the lines, Johann Tserclaes, Count of Tilly, ordered his remaining cavalry and infantry forward. The Swedish lines on Adolphus’ left flank began to falter under this combined attack without cavalry support.

    Seeing this, King Gustavus Adolphus, thanks to his innovations of mobility, quickly shifted his lines and anchored along a new front to meet the Count of Tilly’s advance.

    The European square tercio could not quickly shift to face this new front and were heavily fired upon by Adolphus’ light cannons and musketeers.

    The shift in lines and new front made Adolphus’ far right flank unopposed and he personally reformed them and led them in a charge into the Count of Tilly’s forces and thus captured the enemy artillery.

    Taking advantage of his forces being cross-trained, King Gustavus Adolphus began to use the enemy’s own artillery against him and fired repeatedly into Tserclaes’ exposed flank and rear.

    This quickly led to the Catholic League’s forces being engaged on multiple fronts in a harrowing crossfire. Not able to withstand overwhelming firepower with no possibility of a counterattack, the Count of Tilly’s forces retreated.

    As day turned into nightfall, it became clear the Count of Tilly’s force was all but annihilated. Several of the survivors deserted and some 6,000 were captured, many of which joined Gustavus Adolphus’ army.

    The aftermath

    The Battle of Breitenfield was the first and most important of King Gustavus Adolphus’ short career. It annihilated the Catholic League’s main fighting force during the Thirty Years War and necessitated for it to be rebuilt.

    His tendency to personally lead the charge, which was certainly a factor in his death at the Battle of Lutzen in 1632, is perhaps the only reason he did not emerge on the world’s stage as a significant figure in Europe’s course after the war’s conclusion in 1648.

    However, his contributions to modern warfare were such as attack emphasized over defense, sustained rate of fire, combined arms tactics and the value of cross training fighting units have been validated time and again on the globe’s battlefields after the 1600s.

    His innovations and models have been admired by Napoleon, Carl von Clausewitz, and General George S, Patton.

    Sweden has not forgotten her “Lion of the North,” as each Nov. 6 is celebrated as Gustavus Adolphus Day.
    * * *


    Copyright © 2012 Steven Wilson

    Written by MSgt Steven Wilson. If you have questions or comments on this article, please contact Steven Wilson at:
    Steven.Wilson@dinfos.dma.mil.

    About the author:
    Master Sgt. Wilson holds two associate degrees, a bachelor’s in World Military History and an MBA in International Business. He is a graduate of the Air Force Museum’s Director course and the former director of the S.D. Air and Space Museum. He is married and enjoys exploring historical sites and museums, the outdoors, motorcycles and international cuisine.

    Published online: 12/02/2012.

    * Views expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent those of MHO.
    The Pakis shall never manage to be so flexible and disciplined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius View Post
    I thought she would be a good looking woman judging from that profile shot. Seems I was wrong, disgusting looking white people hating SJW.

    https://www.facebook.com/theguardian...5295594271323/
    Hahaha damn... she looked hot in the first photo... but it was silly to wank over a SJW to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vonneauman View Post
    Look, I am no fan of Islamic presence in Europe or North America, but I do NOT consider the enemy of my enemy to be my friend. I no more trust you Whites (both Europeans and New Worlders) or other ethnic groups than I do those Islamic scum.

    I will stay neutral on the sidelines and LMAO. When European civil war breaks out, those Pakistani street gangs will prevail. Even 4 four undersized Pakis will stand up to 10 fat EDL limey hooligans. Now imagine what would happen to you frogs or a bunch of Aprician Euro queers.

    them paki niggas try so hard to act like a black american, even jamaican, niggas have identity issues

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    Wow I don't care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    >Single greatest threat to the west
    In the USA, Muslims are more educated, and make more on average than the average American. How are we a threat to the west?
    Cigarette Smuggling Linked to Terrorism

    Smugglers with ties to terrorist groups are acquiring millions of dollars from illegal cigarette sales and funneling the cash to organizations such as al Qaeda and Hezbollah, federal law enforcement officials say, prompting a nationwide crackdown on black market tobacco.

    The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has more than 300 open cases of illicit cigarette trafficking -- including several with terrorist links -- up from only a handful five years ago, ATF sources said.

    "This is a major priority for us," said Michael Bouchard, assistant director of the ATF. "The deeper we dig into these cases, the more ties to terrorism we're discovering."

    The lucrative trafficking of cigarettes, known as cigarette diversion, is a simple scheme but difficult to stop, law enforcement officials say. The traffickers purchase a large volume of cigarettes in states where the tax is low, such as Virginia and North Carolina, transport them up Interstate 95 to states such as Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey and then sell them at a discount without paying the higher cigarette taxes in those states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar View Post
    But are they though ?

    If anything I'm more wary of the parasitic jewish menace, than low iq muslims.
    Obviously. Muslim or atheist you'd be sent packing just because of your background. You're looking out for your own interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Wow I don't care
    That's what I asked when the OP first opened the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vonneauman View Post
    Albanians are dirt poor in the USA and live in Latino or Puerto Rican neighborhoods.

    My street is probably valued more than the entire country of Albania. The property value that is per square foot.
    Albanians are a lot better than these Latino especially Puerto Ricans, you fucking islamophobic troll.

    i could see you hate albanians because we are muslims and you're a islamophobe.

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