My Take On Trump's Syrian Bombing

[zhaoyun]

or Ivanka saw pictures of dead children and cried, with daddy having to act. Trump's that kind of guy.

Trump flip-flops on everything. Should've known this was coming when he kept talking about increasing military spending. Why increase military spending if you don't intend to go to war? Decreasing military spending was one of the few things Obama did right.

Honestly, he could've slightly decreased military spending and still strengthen our military. By reducing our involvement in costly wars, reducing our commitments, expenditures on logistics (which is consuming a huge portion of our spending), instead spending those savings on R&D to strengthen our military technology and capabilities, as well as building more weapons. Instead, he's building up the military at the expense of things like education.

Also, investment in our infrastructure would really help. I know they are still crafting that bill, but there could've been more to spend there instead of just dramatically increasing military spending.

[Kamal900]

He was dead to me as soon as I realized how deeply involved he was with the Jews. Of course it was unavoidable completely considering he was doing business in NYC,but he went even further than they demand, putting up his own blood as a sacrificial offering to the Tribe.
That's some shit right there.

It's not really surprising that Trump is becoming the next George Bush considering that Jared Kushnar happened to be his son-in-law, and his family been giving millions of dollars to the Chabad movement in America which is a very, VERY anti-gentile Jewish supremacist movement. I mean, you can't fix the Jewish menace in America by the system that they themselves control, and the only way for America to survive is to wage a revolution against the Jewish oligarchs that are controlling all aspects of American society and all that. If WW3 ever happened, it will be only us gentiles in both sides will suffer and perish, not the Jews or Israel.

[Jackson]

18:38 onward,he was pretty sceptical already, so i guess it's not much of a surprise to the Syrian govt.

[Anglojew]

It's disappointing Trump has allowed himself to get suckered into this.

It makes little sense for Assad to use chemical weapons when he is winning and when the peace conference is coming up.
But it does make sense for the 'moderates' or Islamists to use chemical weapons as they're losing and want to draw in Turkey, America etc.

I wonder why there hasn't there been a proper investigation into the chemical attack prior to launching cruise missiles at Assad's forces? This is clearly a violation of international law.

Trump knows it's a false flag I guarantee.

[Anglojew]

it was an eye for an eye for Syria shooting down an Israeli jet. Nothing more nothing less and Trump was compelled via his handler Kuschner.

Where's the wreckage?

If Syria shot down an Israeli jet they'd be parading it's wreck in the streets for propaganda purposes.

That said Israel should be backing the Alawites not fighting them.

[Anglojew]

Dishonourable and reckless. Turns his back on the most critical of his campaign pledges, if only he kept as solidly in place as his A-class combover things would be greatly improved.

I can very well understand the message it sent to Russia/Syria/China/North Korea simultaneously, the dismantling of the obviously false 'Russian puppet' narrative, and gained support from previously oppositional influences, but it'll have a short-lasting effect - and now the precedent is set at a higher level than before. He's basically ceded his own influence over foreign policy events to others within his administration as well as other parties who want US involvement in a war with Syria & Russia. Now anyone with the means can create, or allow to happen another incident similar or worse than the alleged chemical attack and box him into a corner - if he backs down then the support he's garnered will be able to blame his weakness on any concessions made by the US/western powers. If he retaliates - we will end up in a war with Syria & Russia - and if they like they same people can disassociate themselves from him as they please (he's out of control, gone to far) if they consider it a step too far. It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. Big blunder in my opinion, what he's gained in international support he's lost in actual control of the situation - and he's playing with the lives of hundreds of millions.

Hopefully cool heads prevail in the end is all i can say. He was partially elected to fight terrorism, not fight for terrorism. At least we know for sure that US foreign policy can't be changed through the democratic process though, interesting to note.

He's also exposed those members of his team not on board with his more isolationist agenda. I agree though that we'll see.

What he should be doing is arming & supporting the Kurds to achieve independence.

[Anglojew]

People have been dying in the thousands in Syria for god knows how long with zero US intervention.

But somehow 70 dead from an alleged chemical attack is much worse than innocent civilians being bombed, shot and butchered?

No hidden agenda from the US?

On the contrary. The Obama regime armed Al Qaeda/ISIS with $500 million in weapons so stepping back was intentional once the fuse had been lit. This article has since been deleted (but I saw this in the mainstream media at the time specifically the Murdoch press):

https://web.archive.org/web/20170116...he-Middle-East

[Anglojew]

At this point, I don't think he's really blundered. Yes, he's temporarily lost the support of some core constituents and it looks like he's betrayed his promises. But if this is all a strategy to shed off the Russian collusion propaganda, and eventually making peace with Russia while leaving Assad in power. Then I think it'd be worth it. My concern however, is that he's actually genuine in trying to overthrow Assad and involving us in a war over Syria. Might be a real possibility considering the messages coming out of some of his administration. Again, his administration has been schizophrenic and bipolar, not really sure which direction they are heading right now.

Trump does seem easily influenced by those he trusts. So I worry about this too.

[Anglojew]

True, it's not a disaster, but i think it's a serious misstep - while i hope you are right about his long-term strategy (and i will state that given what he could have done, the attack at least was somewhat limited - nothing on the same scale of what Obama proposed in 2013) i find it hard to believe that he would sacrifice that level of trust - probably the lowest level of opposition over this foreign policy area since 2013/2014 during the dismantling of Syria's known chemical weapons - in order to take another one or two years to potentially reach the same level of cooperativeness with Russia & Syria, especially considering the volatility of the conflict. Also if you consider that the forces opposing the state have been trying to draw the US into the war more and more at almost any opportunity, now that there is bonafide proof the US is willing to attack the Syrian state given certain preconditions (alleged use of chemical weapons, or any other atrocities real or not) - what do you feel the chances are of that not happening over the next one, two or three years? In my opinion, nil - this will happen again, probably very soon - America will have to act or Syria/Russia will call our bluff in the west. That's why i say that we are in such a risky position - yes it was a bold and imposing stride forward, but unfortunately it was a bold and imposing stride forward into a corner. To be honest i really hope that you are right, but it just seems too unlikely to me.

Trump's not a write-off - if i was a US citizen and had voted for him, i'd still vote for him again, but i'm not going to change my position because he did.

Russia has a knack of fostering stability through its influence in regions like Syria & Iran. Trump should cede Syria to Russian influence in my opinion. I'm an open Russophile though.

[BeerBaron]

yeah, starting to think Sanders is a shill too. Honestly, at this point, it seems like Tulsi Gabbard and Ron Paul are the only figures with any integrity with regards to foreign policy.

The only thing that will make this an "ok" decision is if war with china and russia are avoided.

Today China turned around a dozen NK ships with coal destined for China, coal is pretty much the only export that NK has because of this strike on Syria. Trump made the Chinese blink and now they are stepping up shutting down NK's nuclear program.

If bombing a mid east airfield that had few causalities avoids ww3, then it is good, we'll have to wait and see what everyone does, the Chinese are capitulating to the US now, but Russia is threatening to shoot back if there are more strikes.

Trump needs to show a little bit of good will to the russians and remove at least some of the sanctions to show he doesn't want to widen the conflict in Syria.